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re: How do you store non-emergency savings?

Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by MaesterMullen
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:36 pm to
I know dick about finaces and retirement accounts, but even I know you can withdraw contribution to a Roth penalty free
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Actually purple and gold is right.
Only certain exceptions let you withdraw from ROTH.
Death being one, 1st time home buyer of up to 10,000 is another, and i forgot the third.


That's true with your earnings. You can take your contributions out any time.

You've already paid taxes on your contributions.

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Although you normally must hold the Roth account for at least five years and be at least 59 ½ before you can tap the earnings tax-free and penalty-free, there are exceptions, including death or disability of the account holder or to use up to $10,000 to purchase a first home for yourself or certain family members. In addition, you can avoid the 10% early withdrawal penalty, but will still incur income taxes, if you withdraw earnings early to pay higher-education costs for yourself or a family member.


To the OP.

I consider myself unsophisticated and pretty stupid when it comes to finances. My wife and I keep about $3500 in savings betwee the two of us for things like emergency home/car repairs, impromptu road trips, etc. If I didn't have two cars with over 100,000 miles each to maintain and a 30 year old home, I'd be comfortable with $1500 or so here.

The rest of our savings are invested in balanced vanguard funds and in a few other investment vehicles. At the end of the year, I take a portion of this and throw it in my Roth, another portion goes towards student loans and home upgrades.

Probably won't contribute very much to my Roth this year seeing the expenses on the horizion (HVAC work on the house, replace wife's car, etc).
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:39 pm to
Thread delivered! To answer the OP, I put non emergency savings into an index fund. I just throw $400 in every month as if I was making a car payment. My Roth doesn't get touched unless it's an absolute worst case scenario.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:42 pm to
So I guess those two won't be returning to this thread

Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:44 pm to
That is prob what I will do.

Getting a token one or two percent on thousands would grate on me.

Outside of maybe a grand kept liquid for cases of immediacy, I think I would rather the rest growing in a diversified conservative setting.

Liquidity is less of a problem anyway because it will be a CC that is actually getting charged.

I'm okay waiting a few weeks if need be to get funds out.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:52 pm to
To answer your original question:



DRIPS. Buy and hold.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:54 pm to
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So I guess those two won't be returning to this thread


It's nothing to be ashamed of, especially for a younger person who is just starting out.

I've asked (and probably will ask) some pretty foolish questions on this board. Not all of us are financial wizards like Flask and some of the other posters.

This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:55 pm to
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I've asked (and probably will ask) some pretty foolish questions on this board.


Oh I have to... But to sit there and argue with 5 or 6 posters who have discussed this recently is
Posted by Sigma
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:58 pm to
Why on God's green earth anyone would use a Roth as a savings account is beyond me. There is a $5500 yearly contribution limit ($11K for a couple). It's not like you can replace $50k at the drop of a hat. That money and time is lost forever. Plan ahead and build up a savings cushion and leave it alone. Leave the Roth alone.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:00 pm to
Curious, what DRIPPS do you own?
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Plan ahead and build up a savings cushion and leave it alone. Leave the Roth alone.


I think this is good advice. If you need a new roof or have some catastrophic expenses, try to just contribute less. Avoid withdrawing as much as possible.

Lots of people treat it like a piggy bank, and I imagine it was a lifeboat for many families in 2009-2010.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Curious, what DRIPPS do you own?



Ok, wtf is a DRIPP???

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:04 pm to
Meant DRIP
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Oh I have to... But to sit there and argue with 5 or 6 posters who have discussed this recently is


I was misunderstanding what I was reading. I was always under the impression the 10% rule applied to anything, not solely earnings, so I was reading those quotes with that incorrect preconceived thought. I was wrong. You all were right. Everyone in here set me straight.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Meant DRIP


WTF is that... I'm dumb, remember.

Treat me like I'm 5 and running around with no underwear on
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:09 pm to
Dividend Reinvestment plans.
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Why on God's green earth anyone would use a Roth as a savings account is beyond me. There is a $5500 yearly contribution limit ($11K for a couple). It's not like you can replace $50k at the drop of a hat. That money and time is lost forever. Plan ahead and build up a savings cushion and leave it alone. Leave the Roth alone.


This is true under certain conditions.

If you can only budget 200 for non employer retirement, and want to throw a couple hundred more for a savings, it becomes viable to combine. Not nesscessarily ideal, but a possible choice.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:12 pm to
Its purchasing stock directly from a company with monthly deposits for a set ammount. No trading fees, and allows you to purchase partial shares using Dollar Cost Averaging.
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:25 pm to
So if you withdraw from your contributions to the Roth, can you repay that withdraw or are you limited to your yearly contribution limits?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:31 pm to
You are limited to your contribution limit.
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