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re: How confident are you that Trump and his team know what they are doing with tariffs?

Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92497 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:28 am to
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There is a slow train coming down the tracks


Like a crashing economy? You clowns just said this happened
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24863 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:23 pm to
I made good money on market panic by buying calls.

I don't know if these tariffs are going to work the way Trump wants or whether he is just kicking over anthills and poking unfair traders with a stick.

I think Trump made an ugly mistake with Canada trolling Fidel Trudeau with Canada becoming a state. It probably handed the election to the "liberals" because the insult didn't just hit Fidel, but every Canadian. They are little sensitive about that to start with.

Our trade deficit with Canada is due to our energy imports in terms of oil and electric power. Without the energy imports, the imbalance vanishes.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134953 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:10 pm to
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the market crash
crash?
really?

I guess terminology (or hyperbole) is in the eyes of the issuer?


Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31354 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:11 pm to
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crash?
really?

I guess terminology (or hyperbole) is in the eyes of the issuer?

I suppose we could quibble over terminology, but the S&P losing 10.5% in two days feels a bit crashy to me. Again, fortunately, Trump pulled his head out of his arse before we had to find out just how far down the bottom was. For context, here is a list of the five worst two day spans in S&P history:

Oct. 19, 1987
-24.6%

Oct. 20, 1987
-16.2%

Nov. 20, 2008
-12.4%

March 12, 2020
-13.9%

April 4, 2025
-10.5%

But I suppose if you want to hang your hat on "it's not really a crash because Trump pulled his head out of his arse before it could really constitute a crash", you do you. But being in the top five feels at least crash adjacent. Maybe mild to moderate crashiness?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28452 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:26 am to
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Don’t look at it.I’ve been through it several times-Black Monday,1987.
Dot-Com bubble,2000.2007-2008 housing crisis,2020 COVID pandemic


This is where I am. Some people have not been around long enough. It has been worse.


This is true...but some of us also are close to retirement and don't have that long to wait for a recovery. I was planning to retire in two years. Now it may have to be three or four.

And if we aren't well into a recovery a year from now, Republicans will definitely lose the House, and Probably the Senate, and Vance can probably forget about becoming President. The swing voters that delivered the White House will punish Republicans.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28452 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:29 am to
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I think Trump made an ugly mistake with Canada trolling Fidel Trudeau with Canada becoming a state.


Are there really people out there that, if by some miracle this happened, think that Canada would be only one state? They would be 10 states at least, with a minimum of 8 or 9 being Democratic.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28452 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:33 am to
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Milley, Tillerson, Pompeo, Wray


Wow. We definitely aren't going to agree.



Rubio =/= Tillerson. Right out of the gate with his first appointment, to perhaps the most important position, with a unanimous Senate confirmation. Just the difference between these two selections tells you that Trump is operating from a much more experienced position.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:44 am to
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This is true...but some of us also are close to retirement and don't have that long to wait for a recovery. I was planning to retire in two years. Now it may have to be three or four.


Lol what?

The S&P 500 is down less than 5% for the year and you’re saying you have to work a couple extra years now? How are you ever going to retire?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 6:50 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52126 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:12 am to
So you need access to your maximum retirement savings on Day 1 of retirement? That’s sad.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 5:25 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:11 am to
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So you need access to you maximum retirement savings on Day 1 of retirement?


He is probably planning ahead for his disbursements so that he can live the lifestyle he chooses to live.

I'm four years out and I have been planning how much I plan to withdraw yearly, which state to live in to minimize my tax load, etc.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:13 pm to
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This is true...but some of us also are close to retirement and don't have that long to wait for a recovery. I was planning to retire in two years. Now it may have to be three or four.


Congrats on being able to retire in 2 years again.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31354 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Congrats on being able to retire in 2 years again.

Hopefully he didn’t do anything foolish in the interim.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50526 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:21 pm to
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The levels in which they are set at today have zero percent chance of succeeding.

I think they start backing off very soon


And people thought they wouldn't back down
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