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Have 401k at old job and not sure my options

Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140710 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:21 pm
Just found out I have a small amount of money in a 401k. It’s lost 6000 plus in last 6 months. I’d like to move some of it to new employer and take rest for home upgrades is that allowable? Or am I only allowed to cash all or move all?

I’m financially illiterate in these matters
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7929 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:58 pm to
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It’s lost 6000 plus in last 6 months.


Percentages my friend, it's all that matters.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2920 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 5:56 am to
Dont use 401k to pay for "upgrades." It's one of the most expensive ways to access cash. You will pay income tax plus a 10% penalty on the withdrawal. I'd only consider it in a real emergency situation. Look at other options to get cash such as a home equity loan or just a signature loan.

You may just want to roll over to an IRA at a low cost brokerage unless you really prefer new employer's plan. Downside would be IRA would trigger pro rata rule if you ever want to do a backdoor Roth. Employer plans typically have higher fees and fewer investment options.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10723 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:00 pm to
You can roll it over to an independent IRA with Fidelity or whatever just to separate it from your employer.

I wouldn't do much more than that unless I had to.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53118 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:24 pm to
Transfer it to an IRA on Etrade, Schwab, TDA, Fidelity etc
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140710 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:41 pm to
Who should I go to for that a bank in town or just cold walk in to an office?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:22 pm to
Call any of the brokerages that have been mentioned here. They can walk you through the process. It’s very easy.

And no, don’t do what you suggested in the OP. You’re not 59 1/2 yet, are you?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53118 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Who should I go to for that a bank in town or just cold walk in to an office?

I'd open an account on one of them and then go through the transfer process with your old 401k. It's been 10+ years since I've done this but I remember it being pretty easy. You can always contact the company your old 401k is with if you have any questions.
Posted by LatinTiger30
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
4822 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:34 pm to
At this point I’d just leave it alone until you recover your $6K. It will take years, but I would not take the loss. Same thing happened to me in 2008. I was down thousands and it took sometime to recover, but when I finally moved the 401k, I was up $2k. I parlayed that into even more money.

I’m down again, but will wait out the market again.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2920 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:32 pm to
I wouldnt early withdraw the old 401k but look into the fees you're paying and those you'd pay at new 401k. You will likely save on fees by rolling it to an IRA (I'd use Fidelty, Vanguard, Schwab or another low cost provider for investments not a bank.). No point in waiting to recover in a higher fee platform when you can roll it over and pay zero account fees,keep it invested and let it recover in IRA. If you're in high expense ratio funds switch to a similar index fund with extremely low fees and let it recover and grow without drag of 401k account fees and high expense ratios.
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