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Good ETF for Oil?

Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:59 am
I hav ea bout 50K I would like to invest in oil with the gas prices where they are today. I think oil should could back up some time during the summer as it always does.

I have never invested in an ETF or oil I have always just put my money into stocks, other than my 401 K which is in a mutual fund.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:28 pm to
XLE.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:41 pm to
Thank you.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4097 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:45 pm to
UWTI if you have some serious cajones.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:50 pm to
UCO is another.

ETA: it's leveraged 2x
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:51 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:06 pm to
XLE doesn't look like it has moved much with this decline in oil prices.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:11 pm to
UWTI - why huge cajones for this one. Is it about to go out of business or something? The price looks pretty cheap at $2.89 and it was around $9.00 in December.

You would think this one is following the oil prices more accurately than the one that is not moving much at all in the decline of oil per barrel.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26575 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:14 pm to
Because it is levered at 3X and is probably subject to long-term decay.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:34 pm to
If you're looking to hold on to something until end of summer, I would highly recommend not buying an ETF. The fees are going to kill any potential gains you might have. They're not meant to be held that long term.

Take it from someone who's lost and learned.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

If you're looking to hold on to something until end of summer, I would highly recommend not buying an ETF. The fees are going to kill any potential gains you might have. They're not meant to be held that long term.

Take it from someone who's lost and learned.



If he bought and sold one time the fee would be a lot less than a mutual fund.

If he's spending 50k, mutual fund would take a percentage of that where as buying the shares and seeling the shares of an ETF would only cost $10-$20 if he executed once and bought a single ETF.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:46 pm to
I like XES

down almost 50% since last year
very low fees
solid portfolio

"The SPDR® S&P® Oil & Gas Equipment & Services ETF seeks to provide investment results that, before fees and expenses, correspond generally to the total return performance of the S&P® Oil & Gas Equipment & Services Select Industry® Index."
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1366 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:52 pm to
EXXI

Up 29% since feb 3rd
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7122 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:59 pm to
RYE
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36302 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

If you're looking to hold on to something until end of summer, I would highly recommend not buying an ETF. The fees are going to kill any potential gains you might have. They're not meant to be held that long term.

Take it from someone who's lost and learned.
It costs less than $20 to buy & sell an ETF & you can get them for free depending on which site you use; I think you're confused.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

If you're looking to hold on to something until end of summer, I would highly recommend not buying an ETF. The fees are going to kill any potential gains you might have. They're not meant to be held that long term.



ETFs generally have very low fees and are designed to be traded or held for very long terms.

You may be thinking of leveraged ETFs based on futures contracts like UGAZ.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:26 pm to
I bought UWTI at $3.16 today. Needless to say it is not looking good. You have to have balls to ride the leveraged ETFs for sure. Not sure how much of this I can stomach. XLE might be the way to go....just invest and forget it for a few months. This day trading of ETFs is not for the faint hearted.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

You may be thinking of leveraged ETFs based on futures contracts


Correct, this is what I was referring to. I saw UCO and UWTI being discussed.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26493 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

UWTI if you have some serious cajones.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18887 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:57 pm to
DBO for a safer play.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:14 am to
Are you looking for an eta that tracks oil or the oil companies?
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