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Fidelity’s Blue Chip Growth fund - FBGRX — yes or no?

Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:44 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41623 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:44 am
Looking to increase non-retirement investing and I’m looking hard at this fund. Its returns are great but the expense is .8%. That’s a little high in my opinion but the returns should more than compensate for that each year on average.

Before I jump in, what are the thoughts of those on this board?
Posted by Gauxt
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2013
325 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:36 am to
I have it, along with other fidelity funds. Up 40% since I've had it....bout 4 yrs.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10400 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:36 am to
20% a year since its inception. There aren't many funds better.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41623 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:02 am to
Yea, I’m pretty sure I’m buying it today. It’s very attractive and now that my family has recently grown yet again, I need to start getting more serious about saving/investing.
Posted by Enos Burdette
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
693 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:19 am to
I’ve held money in several Fidelity growth funds that had similar expense ratios - FFIDX, FBSOX, FBIOX. I believe the ratios on all of those are above .5 and under 1 without looking. All have performed really well and the returns have more than offset the expense ratio. If you’re worried about expense ratio, Fidelity and Vanguard have some very good index options with lower expense ratios (.2 or .3) that still offer solid growth opportunity without the management fees.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:11 am to
Had a lot of there funds over the years till I retired. Always did a fair return. As a young person, I would invest in them again.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41623 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:40 am to
Just put a buy order in for it. Research everywhere else online is one thing but to have the almighty Money Talk’s approval is another

Seriously though, thank you to those responding. I already was about 99% sure I was going to start investing in it but still wanted the opinion of some here.
Posted by Negatiger1986
Inside the Leather
Member since Sep 2010
437 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:21 am to
One thing to potentially highlight is that 45% of the fund's assets are in the top 10 holdings. And these are the same big names as the SP500 - all the "FAANG" stocks covered in the top 5 except sub Microsoft for Netflix.

Are you comfortable with that level of concentration? (Yes, these stocks have crushed it for years).

What are you getting for the 0.8% fee that you aren't getting in a SP500 ETF at maybe .05%? Looks like the top holdings line up pretty close.

Just some food for thought.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:45 am to
I've gotten a 50% return on FOCPX.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40858 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:38 am to
Amazon.com Inc AMZN 8.07%
Apple Inc AAPL 7.81%
Microsoft Corp MSFT 6.81%
Alphabet Inc A GOOGL 4.74%
Facebook Inc A FB 3.87%
NVIDIA Corp NVDA 3.42%
Marvell Technology Group Ltd MRVL 2.85%
Tesla Inc TSLA 2.73%
Salesforce.com Inc CRM 2.62%
Visa Inc Class A V 2.37%

Over 45% in the top 10 holdings, not much diversification. Why waste the .8% return?

EDIT, just saw the post above... exactly my thoughts.
quote:

What are you getting for the 0.8% fee that you aren't getting in a SP500 ETF at maybe .05%? Looks like the top holdings line up pretty close.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 11:44 am
Posted by natsoundup
Simpsonville, SC, Jupiter, FL,
Member since May 2013
367 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:56 am to
I have had it and FCNTX for at least 20 years... it's a set and forget.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41199 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:25 pm to
I went with FXAIX, exp ratio is .015%

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:51 pm to
It's been my best this year(I'm new) with Contrafund being second.
Posted by natsoundup
Simpsonville, SC, Jupiter, FL,
Member since May 2013
367 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:43 pm to
Like I said earlier...set and forget... add when you can. Remember fees are net of actual performance... so they really mean nothing.
Posted by Negatiger1986
Inside the Leather
Member since Sep 2010
437 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

fees are net of actual performance... so they really mean nothing


If a fund outperforms the market (or whatever index is the benchmark) by an amount greater than its fee, then the fee was worth it. If it doesn't, then the fee hurts your performance. Perhaps I am not understanding your point, but to say the fees mean nothing is very misleading. They collect that fee regardless of how the fund performs.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

If a fund outperforms the market (or whatever index is the benchmark) by an amount greater than its fee, then the fee was worth it. If it doesn't, then the fee hurts your performance. Perhaps I am not understanding your point, but to say the fees mean nothing is very misleading. They collect that fee regardless of how the fund performs.


Pardon my ignorance but how is the fee applied?

Is it a yearly fee based on the value of the holding or is the fee only taken when the fund is bought?
Posted by natsoundup
Simpsonville, SC, Jupiter, FL,
Member since May 2013
367 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:24 pm to
Yearly fee....
Posted by natsoundup
Simpsonville, SC, Jupiter, FL,
Member since May 2013
367 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:27 pm to
I should clarify... in the case of FCNTX or or Blue Chip Growth... the fee really means nothing based on their historical performance.. paying a .5 fee when you are consistently getting 15-17% percent returns is really moot. If you were getting 5% returns... then a fee matters...
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40858 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

so they really mean nothing




High fees are the enemy of investors. Over many years 0.5% is pretty large.

Investopedia Article on Fees

Especially when you can get simliar funds for less expense. Look at FTEC... It has outperformed FBGRX at only 0.08 expense
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
3641 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:08 pm to
You know the returns include the fees right? So if the returns are great And looks like a solid fund then do it. Don’t get too caught up in fees.
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