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re: Fed to buy $750 billion more of mortgage backed securities

Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:53 pm to
hapablap21 at gmail.
Posted by Rivers
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:02 pm to
Just read the FOMC minutes. Those azz hats don't need to create a 'bad bank' to hold all the bs. The Fed is the bad bank.
Posted by igoringa
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:13 pm to
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The Across the Curve theorized that most of the purchases would be in the 2-5 year range, which won't affect mortgages much anyway.


Fed came out already and said 2 and 10 (link in other thread)
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:31 pm to
I saw that, but actually doing it in the 2-5 would jawbone the 10 down and allow them to have told the truth.
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:45 pm to
This really has a crossing-the-Rubicon feeling to me. We've gone completely Japanese (although I'm sure amsterdam is happy).
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:48 pm to
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(although I'm sure amsterdam is happy).


I have a client who is a manager for a major investment house who was giddy this afternoon...think things have turned the corner and we're breaking out.
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:50 pm to
Can anyone figure out what their obsession is with the 750B (or thereabouts) number. Honestly, what's wrong with, say, 775B. Just for a little diversification, so I can remember how big each program is supposed to be. Help a brotha out, BerGeit. (I just made that up)
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 6:53 pm to
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The Fed said it would double its purchase of agency debt to $200 billion. In addition, many unspecified types of assets will be included in the newest Fed credit facility, the Term Asset-Banked securities.


They really need to get more creative with the fricking names too.
Posted by Rivers
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 7:15 pm to
Yeah, if they were real biz men they would use the ol $799,950,000,000.99 Billion. We have definitely crossed the Rubicon...we are closer to Rome than the Rubicon.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 7:44 pm to
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Fed to buy $750 billion more of mortgage backed securities
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 7:59 pm to
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LSURussian

why are you happy about this? Going to refi?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:21 pm to
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and watch the bottom fall out of mortgage interest rates


This is EXACTLY what is going to happen and the BEST thing that could happen to the economy. We are going to get to 4.00% on 30 year mortgages, put a floor in the housing market and the economy is about to turn around. Mark it down. This current rally is going to continue and this is a real turning point.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:23 pm to
I won't feel bad when I take your money.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:26 pm to
Bring it. You will lose your arse if you are shorting. I thought bear trap after last week. It isn't. The Fed's move will make the difference this time. You're fricked if you are going to keep shorting.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:28 pm to
I may lose money, I may not. YOU are an asshat for thinking this is a good idea.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:31 pm to
You think buying the treasuries and forcing rates into the low 4's is a bad move???? You are fricking CLUELESS.
Posted by simonizer
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:31 pm to
see, i don't get it. i can understand that the refi market will be booming. but, i still can't understand why anyone would be willing to buy an asset that is declining in value, at ANY interest rate.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:34 pm to
This is what is needed to put the floor in the housing market. It has been needed. The economy cannot recovery until home prices stop declining. This is what was needed 6 months ago.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:35 pm to
I'm about to do a blog post on this, as it's clear that some of you don't get it.

If I issue debt and my wife offers to buy it at an above market price, guess what happens.

ETA: HOUSING PRICES NEED TO BOTTOM, THEY DON'T NEED AN ARTIFICIAL FLOOR PUT UNDER THEM.
This post was edited on 3/18/09 at 10:36 pm
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 10:37 pm to
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This is EXACTLY what is going to happen and the BEST thing that could happen to the economy. We are going to get to 4.00% on 30 year mortgages, put a floor in the housing market and the economy is about to turn around. Mark it down. This current rally is going to continue and this is a real turning point.




What happens when they stop buying in a year?
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