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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by sdc74
Houston
Member since Jan 2007
1193 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:33 am
I started an LLC with 2 other guys to build and flip two homes south of Houston. One of the partners (Partner A) supposedly is an experienced builder. But we are over budget and way behind schedule. The original loan was due December 2023. Partner B and I agreed to take over the project and started the process of getting a new loan and contractors to finish it out (both houses are about 92% complete). Unfortunately Partner B had an accident on NYE and has been in a comma every since. I'm currently in limbo because I can't do anything without his signature and the way the LLC is written his wife can't sign for him. The original bank has given me until March 1st to secure new financing and even though I'm approved for the loan, I still need Partne B's signature to complete the sale from the original LLC to the new one.

I woke up today with the realization that we are probably going to foreclosure. I just need to know my rights and what can I do to lower the blow. Right now we owe $460,000. The bank did a appraisal on both and they came in at $350,000 each unfinished.

What type of lawyer should I look for and does anyone in the Houston area has any referrals? Thanks
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:44 am to
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Right now we owe $460,000. The bank did a appraisal on both and they came in at $350,000 each unfinished.



So you have $700K in assets and owe $460K?

Can you find a buyer for them in their current almost finished state, pay off the debt, and walk away with some cash?

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What type of lawyer should I look for and does anyone in the Houston area has any referrals? Thanks


Which lawyer originally drew up the docs? Go to them first?

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I'm currently in limbo because I can't do anything without his signature and the way the LLC is written his wife can't sign for him.


Even if she has a POA? Or does she not have one?
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8493 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:56 am to
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I'm currently in limbo because I can't do anything without his signature and the way the LLC is written his wife can't sign for him. The original bank has given me until March 1st to secure new financing and even though I'm approved for the loan, I still need Partne B's signature to complete the sale from the original LLC to the new one.


This should be a real wake up call for anyone that's a Member of an LLC like this. I'm a Member of a 3 person LLC doing the same thing, but we all signed an Authorization that any of us can sign independently for the LLC. Of course, that could possibly come with its own set of issues down the line, but at least we won't get stuck in a situation like this.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33357 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:30 am to
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Right now we owe $460,000. The bank did a appraisal on both and they came in at $350,000 each unfinished.
Given that the collateral value seems to easily cover the UPB of the loan, it's surprising to me the bank won't let you just finish out with some back-ended penalties or whatever. Are they claiming that even a "work out" like this requires his sig?

There's really no solve for the disabled Member?

This sucks man. I hope your partner can return to some kind of normal life eventually and that you can complete your project.

Do you mind sharing the cash required to complete and the estimated net sales values of the finished homes?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:27 pm to
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This should be a real wake up call for anyone that's a Member of an LLC like this. I'm a Member of a 3 person LLC doing the same thing, but we all signed an Authorization that any of us can sign independently for the LLC. Of course, that could possibly come with its own set of issues down the line, but at least we won't get stuck in a situation like this


Yeah, I was trying to not beat up the OP since that won't help him any.

But for anyone else reading this thread, this is why it is so critical to get competent professional help on the front end when you are setting stuff up. No one wants to think about stuff going south when you are excited to begin... but someone needs to and have a plan for if that happens.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8493 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Yeah, I was trying to not beat up the OP since that won't help him any.


Definitely not my intention, but I felt like it was worth pointing out.

OP- does your business partner have a spouse that might have POA? I'm sure that avenue has been explored, but on the off chance that they signed one for another matter and it's still effective, that might work in a bind like this?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3784 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:24 pm to
Holy crap. Man, I'm so sorry.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18733 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:49 pm to
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I can't do anything without his signature and the way the LLC is written his wife can't sign for him.


As noted, ask the wife is she has his power of attorney to act on his behalf. Otherwise, an interdiction/guardianship may work, but that is rather involved and potentially expensive.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:59 pm to
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I'm currently in limbo because I can't do anything without his signature and the way the LLC is written his wife can't sign for him.


I would be curious to see this language.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39865 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by CEB
Member since May 2023
36 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:15 pm to
I am sorry you are going thru this. i wish your partner a speedy recovery. One option is to try to raise funds from other sources (other assets, relatives, friends) and purchase the note and assignment of the collateral from the bank. You would then be the creditor to the LLC and could work out of the issues on your schedule.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84644 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:29 pm to
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The original bank has given me until March 1st to secure new financing and even though I'm approved for the loan, I still need Partne B's signature to complete the sale from the original LLC to the new one.


The way I read this you’re an equal partner in a 3 man project and two of you have decided to go it alone and sign off the proceeds of company A to a new company B you planned to create. Is that correct? If so, how is Partner A handling it, if he even knows? Can you work with him to at least get the projects closed and move on?
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