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re: Edward Jones vs Northwestern Mutual vs Fidelity

Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8221 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:36 pm to
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This is a completely ignorant statement.



Found the Edward Jones employee

Edwards Jones stock/etf transaction fees = $4.95
Fidelity stock/etf transaction fee = $0

Edward Jones commissions = up to 2.5% of the principal amount or a $50 minimum commission
Fidelity commissions = 0.01% to 0.03% of the principal

But yeah sure a completely ignorant statement.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4878 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:52 pm to
Again, you’re comparing a full service broker dealer to a DIY platform….

Now compare those charges to the other wire houses and Broker Dealers. You’re also using fees from a brokerage platform, not a managed platform.

Do better next time.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17665 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Avoid NW mutual - they will constantly push you to buy a whole life policy. Their tactics and sales model is MLM-level scummy, encouraging new salesmen to sell high fee whole life to friends and family in almost predatory fashion.



I can vouch for this. I was conned into the whole life thing a few years ago and got smart after a couple years and cancelled. The guy did everything short of crying to convince me not to cancel.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49088 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 2:12 pm to
Never use an insurance company for investments.

I hear only bad things about Edward Jones.

Fidelity is solid.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8221 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Do better next time.



Fidelity's max % for managed accounts is 1.5%
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4878 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 2:43 pm to
Higher than what I charge lol.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Why a broker instead of an RIA?


You can throw RIAs into that group as well - my point was you’re either a DIYer and want to pay as little as possible, or you want someone to help, and you’ll have options like Edward Jones, Raymond James, RIAs, etc. that have various levels and options for compensation that is more $0.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Edwards Jones stock/etf transaction fees = $4.95 Fidelity stock/etf transaction fee = $0 Edward Jones commissions = up to 2.5% of the principal amount or a $50 minimum commission Fidelity commissions = 0.01% to 0.03% of the principal But yeah sure a completely ignorant statement.


General contractors- 10-25% of project cost.

Be your own contractor for free.

That’s the same kind of comparison we’re making. It’s apples to elephants.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

I hear only bad things about Edward Jones.


This board hates Edward Jones more than any other firm, which is strange, because they’re nearly always at the top of full-service brokerage customer satisfaction surveys:



I believe they fell a bit in the 2022 rankings, but the point remains. At the end of the day, your experience is mostly going to be based on your advisor, not the firm.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

What is the best brokerage firm as far as investments?


No offense, but that’s a completely open ended question, with no details about your needs, goals or experience.

Are you looking to buy stocks, ETFs, mutual funds, bills/notes/bonds or brokered CDs frequently or just once or twice a year to fill up your IRA? Is this a taxable brokerage account? Are you well versed on investments, or are you looking for education and/or guidance? Lots of variables to determine a decent answer. What size will your opening deposit be? Many brokerages offer new account bonuses that vary with opening deposit size.

Schwab has bought TD Ameritrade and will be integrating their platforms this year. Schwab is still offering a new account bonus, whereas I don’t believe TDA is. I’ve been with Schwab and/or TDA for about 30 years. No problems to speak of. Lastly, there’s little difference between the majors when it comes to self-directed investing. I’d select the one that offers the products and services you’re most interested in. I can’t speak to the Edward Jones option, as I don’t have any experience with them… and will keep my opinion about the firm to myself. As for Northwestern Mutual, I wasn’t aware that they had a brokerage service. But no matter who you pick, the brokerage won’t be the determining factor in your investing success… the fellow in the mirror will determine that. Good luck.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49088 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:17 pm to
Probably has more to do with their customers’ ignorance and thinking they’re getting a great deal. EJ is full of fees, just like insurance companies’ investment options.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24996 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:32 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
2153 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:04 pm to
When my parents passed we inherited some stock they had bought through EJ. We sold it so we could invest proceeds in our own accounts. EJ charged us $2,500 commission on a $40k transaction when the same sale at Schwab was zero.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Probably has more to do with their customers’ ignorance and thinking they’re getting a great deal. EJ is full of fees, just like insurance companies’ investment options.


Are you aware of any full service financial advisors that don’t charge a fee?

Again, y’all are comparing apples to oranges. The Venn diagram of the average Vanguard client and the average Morgan Stanley client doesn’t intersect.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

EJ charged us $2,500 commission on a $40k transaction when the same sale at Schwab was zero.


No they didn’t. Their fee has already been posted in this thread.

Also, you could have transferred it to Schwab and sold it there for free, but as a DIYer, you don’t know what you don’t know.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88829 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:40 pm to
JD power ratings are a joke and can be bought and paid for

example

LINK
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88829 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Fidelity and Edward Jones will have access to the same products


they never did years back. they do now?

oh and found the EJ salesman.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88829 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:42 pm to
RUN THE frick AWAY FROM EDWARD JONES
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4878 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:58 pm to
Excellent source. “Motor biscuit.” I think my phone has aids now.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21438 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:31 pm to
Gotcha
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