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re: Does car depreciation not exist anymore?
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:42 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:42 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Shopping for a minivan and saw a '23 Carnival on dealer site. Clicked and saw it was listed for only $3k below new price for a comparable '24 (after incentives) and nearly 50k miles. (I'm doubt they'll get that but why even list at that price? In a month or 2-3 it will be 2 model years old I'd expect them to be motivated to turn it.) Is it a ploy to convince new buyers that their purchase will retain value or even appreciate?
Dealer might have already tacked on 2-3k more in “add-ons” on the new one, often isn’t reflected in prices they post online. Lo Jack, tint, etc.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:15 pm to LoneStar23
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I'm seeing used cars on the lots with 15k miles selling for the same price as brand new ones. Why on earth would you buy lightly used cars at this point if new is the same price? Cars used to drop like 10k price after being used
If you live a small area, you might can claim this.
Nationwide though, prices are dropping. New car sales are very slow and wholesale prices are dropping on the used. Many dealers are slow to let go of the COVID life, and are listing cars at MSRP and tapping on dealer add-ons. You see very few, if any, market adjustments though.
With the exception of maybe Toyota, possibly Honda, all new cars are going for under MSRP. Rare and exotics excluded. Used car prices are dropping slower, because new cars are selling slower. Used car dealers need trade-ins and that is not happening enough still with the inflated new car prices. While new cars are getting cheaper, you have to account for the 10-50% increase in MSRP over the Covid years.
Stellantis is the worse offender by far, and you are going to see CDJR dealers go out of business soon.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:40 pm to LSU_postman
quote:has to be true then
've seen YouTube videos
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:40 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Also, owning a vehicle for long periods of time is no longer economical.
Wut? If this is your experience, you must have chosen some shitty vehicles.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:47 pm to notiger1997
It's almost always cheaper to fix your vehicle. Really, unless it's not totaled, the only reason to buy a new one is because you want one or you are just willing to pay for a newer or more reliable vehicle.
New 4k transmission? You are green on that expense in like 6 months vs paying a note.
New 4k transmission? You are green on that expense in like 6 months vs paying a note.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 1:09 pm to vistajay
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I bought my daughter a 3 year old Toyota Yaris with 30,000 miles on it in 2018 for a shade under $11,000. It was totaled in early 2024 when it was 9 years old with 90,000 miles on it. The insurance company gave her $13,000 for it. Truly insane.
Back in 2020 I bought a really nice older low-mileage Buick Lucerne we took in on trade for about $4,000, and I drove it for about a year.
One day, coworker's wife's car goes out, and I had been starting to think about getting something else anyway, so I sold the Buick to him for $3,500 to do him a solid and get her back on the road.
At that point, the car is worth $6k-$7k in a retail sense.
About a year later, his daughter was driving it and she slid off the road into a ditch in the winter and totaled it.
Insurance paid him $9,000.
We were all baffled. The car is worth maybe $7,000 ON THE LOT. Where does $9k even come from? I should have driven the mf into a ditch myself.
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This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/24/24 at 1:17 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:This is complete bullshite lol. The opposite is true.
Also, owning a vehicle for long periods of time is no longer economical. In the 80s and 90s, you could own a vehicle for 8-10 years to maximize value. Today, vehicles owned after the warranty are a $5-8k expense waiting to happen. Drive it another year after that expense and it is likely to have another major problem. All while depreciating.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:38 am to Boudreauboudreaugoly
This is exactly why i bought one of the last new gen 3 toyota tacomas last year.
Last of the naturally aspirated engines.
Last of the naturally aspirated engines.
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