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DJT is the most expensive stock on the market to short - up to 900% annually

Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:46 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:46 pm
CNBC

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You need a lot of cash — and guts — to short Trump Media stock right now.

Trump Media, which began being publicly traded last week, is now far and away the most expensive U.S. stock to sell short, according to S3 Partners, a leading financial data marketplace platform.


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But plenty of people are still willing to pay those steep costs, based on their belief that Trump Media’s share price is bound to fall dramatically from its Wednesday closing of $48.81. Investors who wanted to borrow Trump Media shares to sell them short on Wednesday would have had to pay annual financing costs of between 750% and 900% of the price of the stock, said Ihor Dusaniwsky, managing director of predictive analytics at S3 Partners.

That means a short seller of the DJT ticker who took a position Wednesday would have had to pay costs of between about $1 and $1.22 per day to the lenders.

To break even on a new trade after one month, a short seller would have to see the share price of Trump Media drop by more than $30.


Holy shite

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But getting shares to borrow to sell short is increasingly difficult. Out of about 5 million shares of Trump Media available to short, 4.94 million have been already borrowed, which drives up the financing costs.

This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:26 am
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12861 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:14 pm to
Never bet against the Orange Man
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9135 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 5:06 am to
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would have had to pay costs of between about $1 and $1.22 per day to the lenders.


These "lenders" are the ones who are making the real consistent bank when it comes to politically related emotion driven stock activities. It would be interesting to know who owns the shares that they are using.

Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1474 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:08 am to
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It would be interesting to know who owns the shares that they are using.


It’s usually banks, funds, PE and the like. People talk about “relationships” being important on Wall Street for moments like this. You want to borrow a high-demand stock that everyone’s gunning for? It pays to be buddies with the guy who just happens to have some of it in their diversified portfolio.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40847 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:44 am to
Another example of why people who say just "short it" don't understand.

The best play for these meme/fomo types of securities are to just sit on the sidelines. A new one will replace it shortly after this crashes and burns
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5037 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:04 am to
They talked about this on the All In podcast and how shorting this stock is for lunatics. The people who are going to buy and hold aren't doing it for money, they're doing it with a passion as intense as the WallStreetBets apes with GME.

Yes it's wildly overvalued but anyone trying to short is going to pay out the arse and the Trump crowd would gladly hold on to a goofy stock to see that happen.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:10 am to
It's a meme stock with absolutely nothing to support its current value...which makes shorting it risky...like GME. The question is how long will boomers (and sadly gen xers) actually hodl. They're not unemployed zennials with covid bucks.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1032 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:14 am to
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But getting shares to borrow to sell short is increasingly difficult. Out of about 5 million shares of Trump Media available to short, 4.94 million have been already borrowed, which drives up the financing costs.



This tells me that it's not investing dollars, it's activism...
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
4962 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:37 am to
His last stock is on the OTC market for six cents but
enjoy the ride on this . No institution is buying this for clients. Only suckers need apply
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10614 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:41 am to
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/… Trump Will Be World's 7th Richest Person, Says Peter Schiff, If MAGA Investors Push Newly-Listed DJT Stock To $2K

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Renowned economist Peter Schiff has made a bold prediction about the potential rise of Trump Media & Technology Group (NASDAQ:DJT) stock and its impact on former President Donald Trump‘s net worth. What Happened: Schiff, in a post on X, formerly Twitter, on Wednesday, wrote, “If MAGA investors push $DJT to $2k per share, Trump will be the 7th richest person in the world, just ahead of Bill Gates.



This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:52 am to
tCult loves to give him $, so it’s a possibility.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56241 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:16 am to
In all manners Trump related, there is no sense that can be made of it.
Posted by BourbonDad
Somewhere on the vol surface
Member since Sep 2016
192 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:18 am to
Dealers learned their lesson since GME AMC CAR and DWAC prior gamma squeeze.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:45 am to
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This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:59 am to
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It’s kind of funny to see the posts taunting the people who bought the shares for $70 to identify themselves. …They’re doing just fine renting those shares out for $1/day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:36 pm to
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It’s kind of funny to see the posts taunting the people who bought the shares for $70 to identify themselves. …They’re doing just fine renting those shares out for $1/day.


Wait you think all/many of the are getting paid the $1/day?

This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:41 am to
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Wait you think all/many of the are getting paid the $1/day?
It's the newest moved goalpost talking point that this person obviously didn't even know about before others brought it up in these threads. Look what a hero they are - sure, the stock is down 40% from where I bought it...but I'm lending it out!
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2528 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:41 am to
I plan on buying some call options for December or January. If he is elected again this will skyrocket and if another catalyst happens prior to that same results
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70997 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:49 pm to
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plan on buying some call options for December or January. If he is elected again this will skyrocket and if another catalyst happens prior to that same results


Is it worth taking a flyer on this?

The fundamentals look bad and the stock is tanking. On the other hand, there is the potential for a short squeeze and you might be able to profit from volatility by selling on a spike.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2643 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 4:54 pm to
I thought the djtww warrants would be a sure thing, and never thought it would collapse this spectacularly in less than a month. Seems like this meme stock lacks the devotees willing to flush their own money to make some principled point.
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