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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:13 am to
I wasn't too happy to see this go by a few days ago. How much CO2 does SLI produce?

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President and COO Dr. Andy Robinson Joins Aqualung Board of Directors
EL DORADO, Ark., May 12, 2022 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Standard Lithium Ltd. (“Standard Lithium” or the “Company”) (TSXV: SLI) (NYSE American: SLI) (FRA: S5L), an innovative technology and lithium project development company, today announced an equity investment of $2.5 million into Aqualung Carbon Capture AS, a leader in carbon capture technology. Standard Lithium’s investment was part of a $10 million strategic equity round by Aqualung.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:06 pm to
Seems like SLI is just being dragged around by the general market these days.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?
I wasn't too happy to see this go by a few days ago. How much CO2 does SLI produce?



ZERO! you cant have CO2 emissions if you don't run your plant.

Posted by CharleyLake
Member since Oct 2006
1405 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 5:01 pm to
True enough. The zero number reminds me of a true story. Years ago a comment make by newsman Ray Valdetero of KPLC TV in response to a fish kill in the Lake Charles area said that "all of the industries in the area need to focus their efforts in getting the pH down in the area waterways down to zero."

Ray should of continued to be a sportscaster.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3540 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:14 am to
Just registered for the discussion and will be listening in hopefully.

Will report back whatever seems interesting.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3540 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:54 am to
Okay they just got done with the discussion. It was a panel of a Citi rep, Mintak, and Piedmont's CEO.

Not alot of new or useful information but I'll brush on some of the highlights with regards to money and schedule. Alot of this was already known.

So, firstly the Lanx economics were restated at an all in Capex of $440 MM (that's for all phases of development). Estimated OPEX of $4300/ton LiCO. 2021 LiCO pricing was ~$17k/ton. At estimated 20,900 tpa that equates to a little over $350MM/year revenue. Phase I is first, obviously, and I think that is the smallest resource. Capex of ~$170MM. What I don't know is whether throughput is limited by equipment or feed. I.e. can they produce at 20,900 TPA once Phase I is complete, and the additional Phases are to access more feed stock? My guess is no, and they'll be producing at ~33% that rate after Phase I, and so you can expect a little over $100M/year from that.

SW Arkansas project is better in every way, but further from production because it is grassroots. 30,000 TPA LiOH at current pricing of $80,000/ton equates to an eye popping and, quite frankly, ridiculous annual revenue of $2.4 billion. $850MM CAPEX for that project.

Some schedule comments were given as well.

Mintak stated that the results of the pre-FEED are expected "imminently", which is in alignment with previous estimates of Q2 '22. Stated that they expect the full front end assessment to kick off this quarter, which indeed means the pre-FEED should be done very very soon. Hoping we get a nice PR on those results.

Pending the full front end assessment results, Mintak expects FID in 'early 2023' with commercial construction on Phase I starting at this time next year.

Expect the pre-FEED on the SW Ark project to be done in early '23. They have to tap into the moth balled brine wells and transport the resource to the pilot plant to run it through to finalize those numbers.

Some other minor things - something I'm sure was public info but not sure I knew or processed is that Lanxess intends to have a 100% offtake agreement for the LiCO produced at the Lanxess project - so assuming that starts up well, that material is already sold.

70% of their OPEX is reagents. This was known but that number is still shocking to me.

PLL still sounds like they are on very shaky grounds WRT permitting. This is something that really doesn't impact SLI - Mintak stated they don't even have to do a full environmental impact study.

So, again, not terribly interesting. I think the hot take from this is they are still on schedule with the pre-FEED and, if they publish those results, I think we can expect them in the next three weeks. I submitted a question about hats but the moderator did not ask it; dude clearly shied away from the hard hitting questions.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:15 am to
Thanks for the DD SF. My take is unless Gaucho can troll Mintak into this thread, it's business as usual until the long understood window of later 23 and beyond before things get exciting again. I don't consider windows in this range, considering where it will wind up anything you can DCA is the window.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32900 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:19 am to
Somebody mustve liked the news. Up 5% so far today.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56890 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:18 am to
Might sell at 6 and get that Nissan truck
Posted by Sao
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:27 am to
Hard Body? Be sure to add the Hot window sticker



Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

70% of their OPEX is reagents. This was known but that number is still shocking to me


Do we know what their reagents are and if they’re in danger of supply issues or significantly increasing in price with lithium?
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:07 pm to
Hmm will have to do some research on this. I don’t know if it’s public info. I could probably do some digging and make an educated guess though.

I’m pretty sure they have addressed supply concerns in a PR or investor conference at some point but, again, I’ll have to research as I don’t recall off hand. I wanna say they are looking at a technology for creating a recycle stream.

And no, I don’t think the lithium demand would impact reagent costs as I’m pretty sure most of these acid/base chemistries can be easily scaled and turned up/down to meet demand. Don’t think a deficit is a problem in that market.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3540 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:11 am to
SLI trailing the rest of lithium significantly on a big green day in the sector - that's never fun.

We really need that pre-FEED to get things rolling the right direction again.

I contacted IR with a list of questions yesterday. Gonna give them til Tuesday to respond, then will try contacting Mintak directly. Will update if I get feedback; really hoping for a phone call. My questions were:

- Is it correct to assume these are three independent facilities to be operated as stand alone assets?
- If so, are all plants similar in scope with regards to anticipated throughput? Or will there be a scale? (i.e. will the South unit produce at a rate ~40% less than the 'larger' West unit?)
- Can you divulge what percentage of the Phase I CAPEX is NRE applicable to all 3 phases? I ask this with interest as to why the South unit was selected for initial development rather than the similarly priced but much larger West plant. I would imagine the NRE in Phase I would significantly increase the cost of Phase II thus making it less attractive as the first build but would like clarity there. Or is this perhaps a matter of Lanxess preference and guidance?
- Unrelated to the phased expansion plan, can you confirm that the results of the pre-FEED will be made public upon completion, prior to or congruent with commencement of the FEED?

If I actually get a discussion going I'll try to also ask them about the hydraulic balance, permitting, and strategic sourcing/supply agreements.

Mintak was supposed to call me a few months ago and ghosted me so I'm not sure if I'll get anything this time.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56890 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:27 am to
Mintak is really just 3 kids in a trench coat and Sli is just another bill gates trick to get a bunch of baws to lose money and usher in the great reset
Posted by Bit
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Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:13 pm to
Not based on much data, but, I'm guessing Koch will be supply the reagent and take the spent reagent.

LINK /
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23122 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

SLI trailing the rest of lithium significantly on a big green day in the sector - that's never fun.

We really need that pre-FEED to get things rolling the right direction again.

I contacted IR with a list of questions yesterday. Gonna give them til Tuesday to respond, then will try contacting Mintak directly. Will update if I get feedback; really hoping for a phone call. My questions were:

- Is it correct to assume these are three independent facilities to be operated as stand alone assets?
- If so, are all plants similar in scope with regards to anticipated throughput? Or will there be a scale? (i.e. will the South unit produce at a rate ~40% less than the 'larger' West unit?)
- Can you divulge what percentage of the Phase I CAPEX is NRE applicable to all 3 phases? I ask this with interest as to why the South unit was selected for initial development rather than the similarly priced but much larger West plant. I would imagine the NRE in Phase I would significantly increase the cost of Phase II thus making it less attractive as the first build but would like clarity there. Or is this perhaps a matter of Lanxess preference and guidance?
- Unrelated to the phased expansion plan, can you confirm that the results of the pre-FEED will be made public upon completion, prior to or congruent with commencement of the FEED?

If I actually get a discussion going I'll try to also ask them about the hydraulic balance, permitting, and strategic sourcing/supply agreements.

Mintak was supposed to call me a few months ago and ghosted me so I'm not sure if I'll get anything this time


Seems like you know how to goose a turtle.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4808 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 11:13 am to
LAC getting smoked today. Not sure what the news on that one is
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3540 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 12:17 pm to
Lithium being hit hard by Goldman Sachs releasing a market report predicting lithium prices to fall over 70% by the end of 2023.

While I do think it is overpriced and expect some correction, I don’t think there is any chance it gets under $20k like GS is predicting and likely not under $30k.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
56890 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:47 pm to
I wish I woulda sold Friday
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