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re: Dave Ramsey?

Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:03 am to
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:03 am to
I completely agree in living debt free, but Dave Ramsey is a little too overboard with it.

For example, he pretty much believes you should rent until you can afford to buy your house in cash.


I mean cars I can understand. If you pay the same "car note" into an account monthly, after 3 years you should have enough to go buy a car in cash. Most people don't see this though. Just drive your first car 3 years longer.
Posted by jmtigerfan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2006
3558 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:41 am to
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For example, he pretty much believes you should rent until you can afford to buy your house in cash
No, I don't think he advocates paying cash for a home. Very few could do that. He suggests being debt free and putting down a sizeable downpayment before buying a home.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:51 am to
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No, I don't think he advocates paying cash for a home. Very few could do that. He suggests being debt free and putting down a sizeable downpayment before buying a home.


exactly....and getting a 15 year mortgage.
Posted by jmtigerfan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2006
3558 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:55 am to
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exactly....and getting a 15 year mortgage.
Yep, and not getting a mortgage that is 95% of your monthly take home pay!
Posted by bzss7x
Likes to Stop at the Duty Free Shop
Member since Jul 2005
208 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:03 am to
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and getting a 15 year mortgage.


Specifically, he says your monthly house note on a 15 year mortgage shouldn't be more than 25% of your take home income. If everyone would have lived by this one principle, we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have today, IMO.
Posted by jmtigerfan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2006
3558 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:11 am to
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If everyone would have lived by this one principle, we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have today, IMO.
No shite! We also would'nt have record bankruptcies, record debt, and lowest level of savings in history.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15347 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:57 am to
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No shite! We also would'nt have record bankruptcies, record debt, and lowest level of savings in history.

That's so 2008. The 2009 talking point is that our savings rate is suddenly too high.
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21902 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:23 pm to
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That's so 2008. The 2009 talking point is that our savings rate is suddenly too high.


Spending your way to financial success, I like it.
Posted by jmtigerfan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2006
3558 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:28 pm to
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Spending your way to financial success, I like it
How exactly does this work? Sign me up!
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21902 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:41 pm to
Ask Congress.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37624 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 3:13 pm to
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For example, he pretty much believes you should rent until you can afford to buy your house in cash.


wrong
Posted by atllsu
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2003
1000 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:15 pm to
he preys on the "nascar" crowd, uneducated folks who need guidance......he will tell you to pay the lowest debt you have first irregardless of interest rate....which is moronic to disregard "cost of capital"
Posted by jmtigerfan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2006
3558 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:28 pm to
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he will tell you to pay the lowest debt you have first irregardless of interest rate.
He says to do this so you can actually see some progress (i.e. one less bill to pay) and to keep you motivated, then apply those payments to the next debt. You can't deny that he has good ideas and has helped many people out of debt.
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 8:30 pm
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:40 pm to
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irregardless


Not a word. Sorry, someone had to do it.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40078 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:49 pm to
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he will tell you to pay the lowest debt you have first irregardless of interest rate....which is moronic to disregard "cost of capital"


It's all about getting quick wins.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37624 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:50 pm to
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It's all about getting quick wins.


How high on the debt snow ball were Kool Aid and Ott?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40078 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:50 pm to
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he preys on the "nascar" crowd, uneducated folks who need guidance


That is a pretty generalized statement if I have ever seen one.

I'm not Nascar and I'm not uneducated, but I listen to him and have even attended his 13 week FPU study course.

Posted by PJMLSU
United States
Member since Aug 2007
253 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:06 pm to
My wife and I had racked some serious debt. Someone gave us his book in late December and we have not used the cards since. Wow what an accomplishment.
All this while having my second child in mid-January.
We saved 1000 for our emergency fund, paid off a few thousand on credit cards and cut out all the excess crap in our lives. Oh and came up with another grand that is due the IRS in April. It can be done if you are willing to put the cards in the garbage and get serious with your debt.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40078 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:16 pm to
Good for you. Stick with the plan, it works.

Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40078 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:18 pm to
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How high on the debt snow ball were Kool Aid and Ott?




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