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Credit Suisse is fricked—How A Reporter Reached Out to Me in October

Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:02 am
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11671 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:02 am
I posted this on the political board, in case any of you might want to research some possible Web3 investment opportunities that are going down this week.

I fully expect the "superstonk is a cult" blah blah blah, but I still thought I would try anyway. Do your own due diligence.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/credit-suisse-is-frickedhow-a-reporter-reached-out-to-me-in-october/107351948/

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:14 am to
Few things.

1. I have not had my coffee yet so my brain is having a hard time piecing together your post. What does Credit Suisse have to do with web 3.0?

2. Do you have knowledge regarding gaming crypto? While I am Bitcoin only, I do think there is a great trade to be made with gaming crypto between now and the next cycle. If you do have knowledge, please post in the crypto thread so I can ask you a few questions.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11671 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:20 am to
I am about to go grab my next cup.


Bottom line, [Credit Suisse -need a mark out font], UBS, and banks in general screwed... however, there is a hopeful bright spot this week in the web3 stuff coming out.

I follow the nft/web3 stuff and have a GameStop wallet and account at nft.gamestop.com, but I am no expert. It isn't "crypto". It is a contract for items - games stuff like skins and items, and IRL (in real life) items like skateboards, tickets to concerts and shows, and legal items. The surface is just getting scratched.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1282 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:49 am to
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What does Credit Suisse have to do with web 3.0?


The fact that OP would put clickbait BS in the title tells me all I need to know about this…
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11671 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:03 am to
quote:

The fact that OP would put clickbait BS in the title tells me all I need to know about this…



Or, you could go to the main link where it talks about it. Just lazy of you.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4449 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:15 am to
It's bad form to start a thread on this board that is just a link to a thread on the poli board, which itself is a link to a different reddit thread. Confusing title also.

I do absolutely love this post in the poli talk thread though. Your posts are always good for a laugh:

quote:

Bad mouth it all if you will, but this might be the Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, McDonalds, Coca-Cola moment that you all wish you had jumped on to, but derided as flash in pan when you had the chance. Then again, maybe you are right and this won't be anything.

The GME stock is a huge bargain - IMHO - at 16.60 pre-market. Not advice, but I grab some up every week.


Yes, a video game retailer that mainly sells used games, pops, and trinkets out of brick and mortar shops in strip malls is the next big thing!
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11671 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Yes, a video game retailer that mainly sells used games, pops, and trinkets out of brick and mortar shops in strip malls is the next big thing!


bookmarked
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3026 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 1:06 pm to

This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 1:26 pm to
This is slightly dumb.

Everyone knew Credit Suisse was in trouble in October.

Their CDS yields were crazy if you went on Bloomberg back in October.

Nothing compared with 2008 CDS yields but Credit Suisse has been in trouble for a long time.

My firm's had a sell position on it for a long, long time (earlier than October). Only thing we didn't expect was that AT1 bondholders would be screwed compared with equity holders. I could probably attach a screenshot for proof but I'd be violating all sorts of rules and standards of conduct.

I was in a call with a sales team from a bank this morning and she pointed out that they've known about Credit Suisse being in trouble for years.

This isn't genius - it's the obvious lol. CDS yields would have told you they were in trouble in October.

Honestly, institutional investors have access to so much information that retail investors don't that I didn't realize this wasn't common knowledge.
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:10 pm to
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bookmarked


GME is down to ~16 bucks.


Damn I’m glad I cashed out at 390.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4082 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 7:08 pm to
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Only thing we didn't expect was that AT1 bondholders would be screwed compared with equity holders.


Very true. When that came to light, that was actually the pop goes the weasel moment. Here and other places, there were some less seasoned investors who used language like “they won’t let ‘em go out of business” to justify a (speculative) purchase of CS equity. And while they’ve learned a hard less in the difference between basic survival and a worthwhile investment, many bond holders were not expecting the SNB to do what it did to the CoCos. While those bonds did carry some significant risk, I’m not sure that anyone expected them to get totally wiped out. $17.2 billion is a fair amount of change. In this case, the equity holders have taken something of a loss, but these bond holders have taken a complete loss. That is very unusual.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4082 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:45 pm to
I should add that it wasn’t just less seasoned investors who got burned. I just read an article about how the Saudi National Bank took one in the shorts on CS.

quote:

Riding an oil-price boom last year, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman directed government-backed Saudi National Bank to make a $1.5 billion investment in Credit Suisse Group AG that his financial advisers harbored doubts about, according to people familiar with the matter.

Now, the Saudi investment is almost wiped out after Credit Suisse’s emergency merger with UBS Group AG.

According to the people familiar with the matter, Saudi National Bank officials felt out of the loop, finding out about the talks with UBS via the news media on Friday evening.


Now the prince is probably staring at some poor schlep who advised against making the investment, determined to tell him that it’s not his fault… but he’s going to blame him anyway.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10257 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 5:31 am to
WAGMI… GME. Cringe..

Thanks for including those so boldly in the synopsis so I only wasted 30 seconds of my life.

CS has been an absolute dumpster fire for a long time. This was inevitable and coming sooner or later
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15547 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:19 am to
I remember reading about when about of Dutch dudes got all excited about some tulips
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10257 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:19 pm to
GME up 55% AH because they didn’t lose money for once.

Will meme stocks ever completely die?
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