Costs for a utility pipeline

Don't think you're going to find the answer you're looking for here. I'm in the pipeline business and there are hundreds of variables that determine cost.

- States/local/federal permits/fees are variable
- Type of terrain (rocky, loose soil, hills etc)
- Number of road crossings
- Number of water crossings
- Wall thickness & grade of pipe
- Coating spec of pipe
- Environmental impact consulting
- Indigenous/archaeological surveys
- Size of ROW
- Remediation requirements
- Cost of contractor/labor
- Logistical costs for transporting pipe

And many many more. It's tough to even get a baseline cost because it can depend on the region

Ummm....Oxygen or Nitrogen? One of these is not like the other.

Have they acknowledged the pipeline is there improperly? If you have the documentation showing that the railroad company only had servitude you can probably get them to cave pretty easily.

Talk to their land department and tell them you want to be made whole or have the pipeline rerouted with also being paid the lease fees they should have paid you from the beginning. I guarantee they'll pay you out if you're legally in the right. They'll give you a number...you 'mull it over for a while' and reply back saying you want triple their offer or you'll take legal action.

Again, make sure you have legal standing and you can get pretty much whatever you want (within reason). Pipeline companies don't like to frick around with lawsuits and would rather just pay someone to go away.

Passed this on to a friend of mine, he said to check out this: LINK

then:

find the line and see when was installed

and what the product is

and who the operator is

This should be interesting.....

The opereator has two parallel 8" lines. One of them appears to be on property expropriated by LA DOTD, they other in the RR ROW.

There have been a number of heirs,for sure. I have nine volumes of the Section abstract including all of the successions. It was prepared for another legal matter about three years ago.

It has become interesting. I am researching remedies for legal bad faith trespass. As I appreaciate it, the possessor thinks that they are in the right but it is reasonable that they should have known who was the rightful owner (from the public records, for example).

I looked up a legal opinion for the same Railroad ROW in an older matter. My ancestors granted a right-of-way deed for "servitude only." No expropriation was involved with the railroad, that is to say that it was not awarded to the railroad by the court system.

I agree that it is likely that their land folks assumed that the land under the 100'with railroad ROW was not retained. I gave the pipeline company until the end of the month to search title and to provide me with authorization to construct and operate the pipeline.

1. Has the ---family owned the property from --to present day?
2. Did --pipeline company construct and operate an 8" pipeline on the ---'s property without permission from--until 2018?

The distance of this pipeline connects to a point of termiation of the same line that we we have an agreement with the alleged trespasser. We are simply not being paid for about 180' to the Section Boundary from the POT.

Would you agree that the mesurement of value is not the 180' plus judicial interest but for bad-faith trespass considering the amount of ill-gotten gains or perhaps the cost of construction for a new pipeline and loss of future sales?
Kind of like bypassing a toll booth for a number of years on the way to market with your produce.

Marbud,thanks for sticking with me on this matter. I will engage an attorney if they are not forthcoming.

For your reading pleasure and I had forgotten about the discussion, go to Google>Louisiana Pipeline Trespass> OT Atorney's Prescriptive Easements Tiger Droppings. 7/21/12

It took three full years but that hog was butchered.

This case is similar but distinguishable.