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re: Complete red wave tonight

Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:24 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70320 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:24 am to
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stop with the parroting sycophancy. There are “socialists” in every government and in every single political entity in the history of the world. Extremism is bad policy, hero worship is bad policy, self dealing is bad policy, needless and endless every single day lies and excuses is bad policy.

I’m not a socialist. Neither is anyone I know. We’ve created labels for what we used to call two party government, and shite got done.


That's nice. These Democrats are socialists. Not sure why you wouldn't believe them when they tell you.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 9:24 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:26 am to
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Socialism & communism require government ownership.
boy do I have news for you
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70320 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:27 am to
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boy do I have news for you


This should be fun. By all means, tell me how my description is incorrect.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:34 am to
If that is your definition of socialism the current administration is the most socialist government this country has ever had
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70320 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:35 am to
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If that is your definition of socialism the current administration is the most socialist government this country has ever had




OK then. Good luck with your confusion.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
34239 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:10 am to
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If they gain the presidency and keep the House, then they can do all of the things they've been saying they want to do like stack the Supreme Court.

I think the odds of this happening approach nil, in the same way that Republicans constantly spew red meat for their base. Now, to be clear, were they to actually stack the Supreme Court, I believe that will mark the death knell for the Republic, but I have a hard time articulating just how unlikely I believe that to be. They'll saber rattle over it, but I don't think they want to be the dog that catches that particular car.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70320 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:11 am to
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I think the odds of this happening approach nil, in the same way that Republicans constantly spew red meat for their base. Now, to be clear, were they to actually stack the Supreme Court, I believe that will mark the death knell for the Republic, but I have a hard time articulating just how unlikely I believe that to be. They'll saber rattle over it, but I don't think they want to be the dog that catches that particular car.


This makes no sense. They've been saying they're going to do it for years.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
34239 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:16 am to
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This makes no sense. They've been saying they're going to do it for years.

Republicans have been saying they were going to get rid of Obamacare and balance the budget for decades; at this point, do you believe they actually mean it?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70320 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:19 am to
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Republicans have been saying they were going to get rid of Obamacare and balance the budget for decades; at this point, do you believe they actually mean it?


Yes, actually. If the GOP had 55 seats in the Senate during either of Trump's terms, as the Dems now do, this would have happened.

You can't expect sweeping changes from leaders who have to rely on "moderates" (which simply means "willing to vote against party" these days) to pass their agenda. You can expect that sort of change from what we have given the Dems. They just need one more piece in 2028.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 11:21 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27921 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:23 am to
13 days
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
34239 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:29 am to
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Yes, actually. If the GOP had 55 seats in the Senate during either of Trump's terms, as the Dems now do, this would have happened.

You can't expect sweeping changes from leaders who have to rely on "moderates" (which simply means "willing to vote against party" these days) to pass their agenda. You can expect that sort of change from what we have given the Dems. They just need one more piece in 2028.

My brother, if you sincerely think that Republicans would have killed Obamacare and balanced the budget if only they had two more Republicans in the Senate instead of "merely" the 53 they had, we can simply agree to disagree
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:57 am to
1. End the wars in the Middle East. Make the best of the situation with Iran and compel them to defund the houthis. Cut Israel loose, accept ICC sanctions on Netanyahu and get them out of Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon
2. Dismantle AIPAC
3. Stop all current and planned vanity construction projects in DC
4. Reinstate sanctions on Russia and military support to Ukraine and end that conflict

Trump 2 foreign policy and international trade have been a disaster. The economy is all that matters, and both of those things are choking it
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:00 pm to
and right on cue the orange idiot is out talking about the fricking ballroom today
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
34239 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:02 pm to
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and get them out of Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon

I don’t believe this is reasonable as a practical matter, unless we are willing to commit troops to occupy. That ship sailed October 7, at least as to Gaza and the West Bank.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
5325 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:02 pm to
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But is that really a "strong market?"


Nope, i was kinda being facetious. The market is happy today because there will be gridlock for 2 years.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:07 pm to
Now hes bragging about the marble floor he ordered. Hard to believe the voters are sick of this shite
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42435 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:07 pm to
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They've been saying they're going to do it for years.


Politicians say a lot of bullshite on the campaign trail and then never do it because then they won't be able to run on that the next cycle. News at 10.


You are panicking hard.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:09 pm to
then make them a pariah
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:33 pm to
reporter: when will the war end?
trump: whenever I want it to

actual quote, from just now.
it’s a sketch comedy routine at this point
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26580 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:33 pm to
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You do realize these are socialists, right?
As a true believer in capitalism, a quick internet search shows only seven members of Congress (Including the newcomers) are described as democratic socialists.
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