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re: CEO: OpenAI will not go public this year

Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:34 am to
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Anthropic isn't making money yet either.


Anthropic begs to differ
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:34 am to
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This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 7:35 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:56 am to
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Anthropic begs to differ


Even the article you posted refutes what you just said

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before accounting for revenue shared with distribution partners, including Amazon (AMZN), and the cost of training its model


Ah yes if we ignore our largest cost we made money!!

So no they are not making a profit

This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 7:57 am
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 9:33 am to
This is painfully transparent when you combine it with the public campaign over the last few days. Their product is the frontier LLM and they want to slow spending on it so that the economics of their business briefly make sense.

The problem is that the frontier is 12 months behind them max. And then they’re a commodity.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 10:13 am to
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And then they’re a commodity.
more like a utility…similar to “the internet”
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 10:26 am to
Would you expect a firm in this stage of buildout to make a profit?
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 10:29 am to
I don’t understand how these frontier companies are going to keep consumers engaged. Consumers do not need the very best models…open weight will be totally sufficient going forward. Consumers just need an easy wrapper to access them and the cost of those tokens is minimal versus the frontier.

Frontier models are really a professional use case. Corporations and research labs can get utility from the very best models and will be willing to pay a premium for some of their use cases.

I do think we are on the cusp of the open weight models shifting to prominence. I don’t need to spend $20/month on Claude or GPT forever.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 10:37 am to
go back and find Alex Karl’s rant on CNBC a few weeks ago. Just like with bitcoin (if you don’t own the wallet you don’t own the coin) or with gold (if you don’t own the metal you don’t own the gold), with AI if you don’t own the data you don’t own the alpha.

Renting intelligence is not a business
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 11:56 am to
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Would you expect a firm in this stage of buildout to make a profit?


No but I was responding to the poster that says they are making a profit
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Ah yes if we ignore our largest cost we made money!! So no they are not making a profit


They also stacked revenue into a single quarter and then annualized it to project the entire year.

OpenAI got caught compensating subscriptions and characterizing it as marketing expenses …which makes their marketing budget 3X larger than Coca Cola.

Posted by beaverfever
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:55 pm to
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Frontier models are really a professional use case. Corporations and research labs can get utility from the very best models and will be willing to pay a premium for some of their use cases.
There are a lot of issues with this lane. Larger companies will just have their own in house models due to privacy and cost efficiency. It’s already starting.
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