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Buying HUD Homes
Posted on 6/18/16 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 6/18/16 at 10:51 pm
So... You basically submit a bid via an acceptable Broker and if accepted you either pay cash or secure loan? Is that pretty much it or are there hidden features (hurdles)?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 6:25 am to Hoyt
That's a fairly good description of the overall process. The process is more involved for the realtors and title company handling the transaction. I've handled several dozen HUD reo transactions in the past 3 years (title side). It is generally more work for all involved but the buyer never really has to do anything extra. And the extra work is not hard, just a little tedious at times.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 6:26 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 6:53 am to rmc
Thank you for the info! Looking at making an offer through my LLC. This would be my first attempt at a flip.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:30 am to Hoyt
Good luck. There are deals to be had from HUD REOs.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:49 am to rmc
Im actually buying 3 section 8 homes right now, the closing is next friday ill let you know how it goes. I asked my realtor of the approval process and he said he would handle everything and fwiw he got the seller to pay for my home warranty. One of the homes has a hole in the wall in the mast bedroom, a big one, not sure if im going to have to fix it or not, but if there is no inspection from the section 8 inspector then I wont be doing it. I am a bit worried bc the guy wanted $195,000 for the 3 and I offered $150k and we're closing at $161k. The 3 rents Im getting are $932/mo and will be rising to $1,070 in september from what I understand. Im still nervous bc I dont know why someone is so willing to let go of a 20% cap rate investment in this low rate environment but who knows. If section 8 doesnt work out, I can use them for my employees so I have a back up plan. Hoping its a headache free 20% annual return haha.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:52 am to Hoyt
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Thank you for the info! Looking at making an offer through my LLC. This would be my first attempt at a flip.
Make sure you are aware of the rules regarding resale of HUD properties.
Always purchase Title Insurance on a HUD property.
Good Luck!
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:45 pm to ItNeverRains
I've bought 2 HUD homes and there's nothing different to you an I. Closing can take longer and sometimes offered from people who want to owner occupy will be excepted before investor offers.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:46 pm to ItNeverRains
I've bought 2 HUD homes and there's nothing different to you an I. Closing can take longer and sometimes offered from people who want to owner occupy will be excepted before investor offers.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:50 pm to ItNeverRains
What are the rules regarding resale?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 3:33 pm to Hoyt
We bought one at the end of last year. Since it was in the owner occupant period, we have to live in it a year before selling. It's a bit of a pain to get utilities turned on for inspections. We had to get authorization and they could only be on for 72 hours. Also, our lender required us to give them an inspection report and nitpicked about every little thing. They wanted repair quotes on every single issue the inspector found and wanted us to put money in escrow to pay for it. We ended up getting them not to escrow the money so that saved some aggravation.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 5:54 pm to dabigfella
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headache free
say hi to that hole in the wall.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:49 am to dabigfella
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One of the homes has a hole in the wall in the mast bedroom, a big one, not sure if im going to have to fix it or not, but if there is no inspection from the section 8 inspector then I wont be doing it.
You sound like you know what you are doing, so please don't take this as a criticism, but it's more of just a curious question from me.
If there is a big hole and you aren't going to fix it, isn't that going to limit your potential renters to trashballs who don't care that there is a big hole, and likely they will have no concerns about wrecking your house?
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Im still nervous bc I dont know why someone is so willing to let go of a 20% cap rate investment in this low rate environment but who knows.
Maybe tenant quality is so poor even 20 percent cap rate isn't worth it?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:55 am to LSUFanHouston
no no there are tenants in place in all 3 homes, they're side by side townhomes that are currently at $932/mo and in september rise to $1,070/mo. I've never dealt with section 8 before or its tenants. A realtor I buy my properties from came to me with this like 2 weeks ago and thought it was a steal and frankly it is. The checks come from the government every month I dont have to do anything. Still trying to wrap my head around why the seller would want to sell these but who knows. They're 1700 sq ft 3 bedroom townhomes. He was asking $195,000 for the 3 I got them for a hair over $160k. I did inspections and very few minor things nothing major. The only major thing was the giant hole in the wall in one of the master bedrooms but for what I paid which is like $54,000/home I dont mind if I have to repair it. The tenants have been living with it so unless Section 8 authorities tell me I have to fix it I wont. Im sure though that when a new owner comes in they probably inspect properties again but who knows our government is kinda useless when it comes to things like this.
My closings are this friday ill let you know how it goes, the realtor says its simple to get the checks transferred into my names and he's handling it, he's a good friend of mine for many years no need for him to BS me.
Of course the tenant quality is low, its government supplied, but if it is, when its time for leases to be up ill end it and either lease them to some employees of mine or just lease them to normal people I can screen, actually saw the area other similar places are leasing for $1,200/mo or so but these are already in place and $932-1070/mo puts me at near 2%/mo which almost impossible to do in real estate so I cant complain at all. I know the upside is zero in terms of capital gains but these can be cash cows.
Just curious do any of you know a good site to buy section 8 housing? Im really intrigued by this all, Im hoping this goes well and I can find others, I dont mind my return on invested capital being 20% so Id love to look at some others, not sure where to begin the search though? Are there big buildings of section 8 for sale? Other multi unit opportunities like I paid? Is 20% the typical cap rate for section 8? I have a ton of questions and my realtor didnt know bc its not really his thing, just a one time deal that he came across while looking for stuff for me.
My closings are this friday ill let you know how it goes, the realtor says its simple to get the checks transferred into my names and he's handling it, he's a good friend of mine for many years no need for him to BS me.
Of course the tenant quality is low, its government supplied, but if it is, when its time for leases to be up ill end it and either lease them to some employees of mine or just lease them to normal people I can screen, actually saw the area other similar places are leasing for $1,200/mo or so but these are already in place and $932-1070/mo puts me at near 2%/mo which almost impossible to do in real estate so I cant complain at all. I know the upside is zero in terms of capital gains but these can be cash cows.
Just curious do any of you know a good site to buy section 8 housing? Im really intrigued by this all, Im hoping this goes well and I can find others, I dont mind my return on invested capital being 20% so Id love to look at some others, not sure where to begin the search though? Are there big buildings of section 8 for sale? Other multi unit opportunities like I paid? Is 20% the typical cap rate for section 8? I have a ton of questions and my realtor didnt know bc its not really his thing, just a one time deal that he came across while looking for stuff for me.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/20/16 at 6:00 pm to dabigfella
Siince certifcates (that stayed with the property) were replaced by vouchers back in the late 80's(?), I'm not aware of what one would really call Sect. 8 housing these days, unless you're talking about a government subsidized development. Most any qualifying property can be Sect. 8 housing now.
But there probably are forums where owners talk about properties that will pass an inspection and are rented through the program now. My uncle in California is part of an investor group that focuses on 1031's, so I'm sure there's something on other specialties too.
But there probably are forums where owners talk about properties that will pass an inspection and are rented through the program now. My uncle in California is part of an investor group that focuses on 1031's, so I'm sure there's something on other specialties too.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:47 pm to Jag_Warrior
I've said this in another thread, but the best place to find section 8 and hud housing are the Alex built large townhome, condo, and apt complexes that flopped when the market crashed. The stuff that was selling for $120-200 during the bubble and now going for $50-80k.
I don't think you will find much with section 8 tenants because anyone that has done the work to get qualified are most likely in it for the long haul.
I don't think you will find much with section 8 tenants because anyone that has done the work to get qualified are most likely in it for the long haul.
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