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re: Bitstamp Halts Withdrawls

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Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:38 pm to
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If you understood how to comprehend written English you would know I didn't write that paragraph. I linked the article from Bloomberg.



If that's the deflection you need to makeup for your lack of knowledge on the subject, feel free to use it.

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And so you're admitting that the wonderful, futuristic bitcoin network which is touted as removing third parties for buying and selling over the internet actually has to rely on a third party like coinbase to complete a significant % of its transactions?



No, but you sure are putting words in my mouth. It takes a little bit of vision to see why bitcoin is important.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:42 pm to
You're embarrassed, right?

You actually revealed that bitcoin as a peer-to-peer currency is a failure. It requires a dreaded third party resembling an evil bank for many of its transactions to be accomplished.

Just think how few transactions there would be without those third parties....
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Is coinbase audited on a regular basis to ensure they aren't creating fake btc?



I believe they are starting quarterly audits this upcoming quarter.

Also, considering there is nothing stopping a user from transacting with a non-coinbase wallet, that would be pretty easy to detect.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:51 pm to
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I believe they are starting
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:52 pm to
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You're embarrassed, right?





You're a shitty troll.

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Just think how few transactions there would be without those third parties....




tx <= 7 per second as of right now. That will be easily changed in the future though.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:55 pm to
If you were intelligent you would be embarrassed.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:59 pm to
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If you were intelligent you would be embarrassed.



I'll be saying that to you in a few years, but you probably will feel pretty embarrassed anyways.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:03 pm to
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i bloody hate coinbase...i'm losing tons of money because of their dumb 4 day conversion policy
Yeah, your coinbase is just fabulous!
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:05 pm to
I have no idea what that post means. 4 day conversion policy?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27836 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:06 pm to
Does a coinbase btc transfer immediately to a non coinbase account or does coinbase have to process the exchange?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:08 pm to
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Does a coinbase btc transfer immediately to a non coinbase account or does coinbase have to process the exchange?



It acts as a normal bitcoin transaction (Assuming there isn't a run on Coinbase, they keep 97% of user bitcoins in cold storage).

The transaction happens instantly but takes time for verification by the network.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:18 pm to
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I have no idea what that post means.

That happens frequently with you.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:25 pm to
Could you explain the 4 day policy? I've never encountered or heard of it.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:55 pm to
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By far the most popular wallet is Coinbase. Coinbase to Coinbase transactions do not appear on the blockchain.
Well your vouching for Coinbase puts all my concerns to rest. I guess I should ignore stuff like this Coinbase Moves to Calm Security Concerns Amid Theft Reports, even though it was dated less than a week ago.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:03 am to
So wait wait. Last week you guys told me the glory of Bitcoin was taking out the middle man, but it needs middle men like Coinbase to work.


Ok got it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80309 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:49 am to
So reading through this thread trying to gain knowledge on Bitcoin.... I didn't realize that the transaction HAD to go through one of the third party softwares.

So a couple of questions:

1) How is this any different than using a credit card?

2) Bitcoin is supposed to be impervious to "bank holidays"... Well if its got to go through a 3rd party whom you NEVER know when its going to go down for days at a time, how is that better? I mean with a bank holiday, I at least know years in advance when they are and can base my transaction around them... With Bitcoin, I may go to do a transaction and then end up having to wait 3-4 days for it actually to take place...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127054 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:35 am to
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2) Bitcoin is supposed to be impervious to "bank holidays"... Well if its got to go through a 3rd party whom you NEVER know when its going to go down for days at a time, how is that better? I mean with a bank holiday, I at least know years in advance when they are and can base my transaction around them... With Bitcoin, I may go to do a transaction and then end up having to wait 3-4 days for it actually to take place...
Isn't bitcoin simply FAB-u-lous?!?
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:21 am to
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Bitcoin is supposed to be impervious to "bank holidays"... Well if its got to go through a 3rd party whom you NEVER know when its going to go down for days at a time, how is that better? I mean with a bank holiday, I at least know years in advance when they are and can base my transaction around them... With Bitcoin, I may go to do a transaction and then end up having to wait 3-4 days for it actually to take place...
Meanwhile, Coinbase is exposed to exchange risk. What have we learned about the stability of the exchanges on which Coinbase must make conversions? I wonder how large Coinbase's capital reserves are?
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65060 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:33 am to
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I wonder how large Coinbase's capital reserves are?


Want to bet what their capital consists of? You guessed it, bitcoin. That's my guess anyway.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27836 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:35 am to
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That's my guess anyway.


naa i think they actually have some decent funding. But with bitcoins price rising and falling so rapidly, who knows if it's enough. But I'm sure their creditors (owners) will get paid well before the coinbase users if things go south.
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