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re: Bitcoin...LOL
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:09 am to Bigdavewave
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:09 am to Bigdavewave
I am by no means a crypto advocate, but looking at the past data is intriguing. I guess I should add “past performance is no future blah blah blah”



Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:35 am to JayDeerTay84
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Bro, BTC has been around for 13 years and made it all this way with no FED or outside monetary policy.
So, it went public when the 2009 bull market run started? And the fact that there hasn't been any regulation YET is not the selling point you think it is.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:07 am to Bigdavewave
It’s hard to believe these threads are still happening with the same not so hot takes…okay well not that hard to believe.
I’m sure y’all are right this time and Bitcoin will go to $0
I’m sure y’all are right this time and Bitcoin will go to $0
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:23 am to TrussvilleTide
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Remember when it was a hedge against inflation
did it outperform inflation?
if so then it's an inflation hedge
this is like preschool math
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:34 am to GhostofJackson
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So, it went public when the 2009 bull market run started? And the fact that there hasn't been any regulation YET is not the selling point you think it is.
So what exactly are they going to regulate with BTC? They already said its not a security.... They classify it as property.
What do you know that we dont?
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:38 am to Bigdavewave
Check back in in a few months
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:44 am to rocket31
this thread will not age well
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:47 am to rocket31
Good point. Most buyers were smart like you and got in when it was less than a few hundred dollars per coin.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:53 am to rocket31
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did it outperform inflation? if so then it's an inflation hedge this is like preschool math
Eh, depends how it’s marketed, so to speak. Most people think of a hedge as something that provides negative correlation to whatever alternative you’re using. In other words, if dollars go down over this time frame, then bitcoin will offset that loss by going up some amount.
If you’re sitting in February of 2021 and you believe inflation is about to be much more persistent and sticky than the forecasts, buying Bitcoin hasn’t worked as an inflation hedge. However, stocks have.
If you’re saying Bitcoin growth will outpace inflation over a long time frame, that a different story altogether.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:56 am to wutangfinancial
sure but you could buy today at $38.5k and as long as it outperforms inflation for the year, its still a better hold then cash.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:01 pm to slackster
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If you’re sitting in February of 2021 and you believe inflation is about to be much more persistent and sticky than the forecasts, buying Bitcoin hasn’t worked as an inflation hedge. However, stocks have.
it doesn't even need to necessarily be a cpi inflation hedge
bitcoin is an alternative monetary system that offers an escape from the perpetual credit expansions and credit contractions
in other words it can be a hedge on the current system collapsing
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:06 pm to Big_Sur
That chart doesn't mean shite without context. You have to show how it compares to other assets distributions.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:09 pm to rocket31
Your understanding of inflation is incorrect and holding cash outperforms falling asset prices. Outperforming CPI prints means nothing if you are a saver.
When will you stop your love affair? Bitcoin is just another asset class that goes up and down. It’s not an uncorrelated asset, it doesn’t store value, it’s not an inflation hedge, it is as much of a currency as the onshore Yuan. When the crowd gets saved by Ceasar it will continue to go up like everything else but why do you cling to the narrative?
When will you stop your love affair? Bitcoin is just another asset class that goes up and down. It’s not an uncorrelated asset, it doesn’t store value, it’s not an inflation hedge, it is as much of a currency as the onshore Yuan. When the crowd gets saved by Ceasar it will continue to go up like everything else but why do you cling to the narrative?
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:22 pm to TurtleSS208
looks to me like commodities, precious metals, long bonds, tips and international/EM going to be good the next decade
and
BTC
EDIT: That really was an incredible run in the Nasdaq - wow
and
BTC

EDIT: That really was an incredible run in the Nasdaq - wow
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:31 pm to wutangfinancial
BTC is only 13 years old so the volatility is not going away anytime soon. I'm not one to cling to a narrative and if it fails or something better comes along then I'll change perspective
I no longer anticipate 100% gains every year and I was wrong to expect that but I still would rather hold it than holding cash. math supports this idea so far.
but with that said. i don't like that it's shown correlation to tradfi. that has been disappointing to observe
I no longer anticipate 100% gains every year and I was wrong to expect that but I still would rather hold it than holding cash. math supports this idea so far.
but with that said. i don't like that it's shown correlation to tradfi. that has been disappointing to observe
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:37 pm to wutangfinancial
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holding cash outperforms falling asset prices
Isn't this 100% determined on "timing" the fall?
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:43 pm to rocket31
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i don't like that it's shown correlation to tradfi. that has been disappointing to observe
you get what you ask for ... bitcoiners wanted institutional adoption well we got that. ETFs and Futures ETFS? got that too. leverage. BIG TIME. Derivatives? YUP
so
you get institutional/deleverage/rotational action in markets too.
remember - traditionally gold sells off initially with a stock/bond market sell off because traders need cash -- then there is a rush into Gold for safety
Leeeeet's see how it shakes out this time around with BTC in the mix
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:44 pm to JayDeerTay84
Much like selling your retirement units for cash when you’re not working and generating an income is. Yes.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:38 pm to rocket31
I should restate what I said earlier. I think BTC is a good option if you aren't super rich to store wealth similar to how wealthy people do in offshore accounts. To add on to that in a currency crisis I think it would be a good asset to be holding. But not units of a trust or ETN/ETP, but a private wallet of actual BTC not tied to an exchange. Similar to gold in that regard.
I haven't looked at the analytics lately but the flows will be back, Wall Street and VC has too much skin in the game for it to go away, and it looks like the shiny new hook for retirement assets now that most of the fees have been deflated away by competition in passive products.
So to re-direct the conversation back to the OP. This will not age well along with crisis of faith in big tech.
I haven't looked at the analytics lately but the flows will be back, Wall Street and VC has too much skin in the game for it to go away, and it looks like the shiny new hook for retirement assets now that most of the fees have been deflated away by competition in passive products.
So to re-direct the conversation back to the OP. This will not age well along with crisis of faith in big tech.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:59 pm to wutangfinancial
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So to re-direct the conversation back to the OP. This will not age well along with crisis of faith in big tech.
Agree. The NASDAQ will surpass the DOW at some point in time.
Just wait till the 401Ks start offering positions in Crypto.
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