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re: Bitcoin has underperformed S&P500 over the last 5 years now - is it dead dead?

Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12198 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:15 am to
Crypto HAS NO UTILITY


I never understood why I would want to buy a car with an asset using a “currency” that can then turn around and be worth- Infinite X times more than when I used it to buy the car.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5343 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:15 am to
You missed the phase when BTC’s was intent frictionless cross border payments without transaction fees.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12198 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:28 am to
Exactly.


So now that its intent is gone.

I’m yet to have anyone tell me what you actually do with it.

Seems like it’s morphed into the world’s BIGGEST Ponzi scheme.


Buy it.

Hope it goes up a bunch


Then sell it for Dollars because someone behind you will buy yours.



Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39981 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:47 am to
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Bitcoin has underperformed S&P500 over the last 5 years now - is it dead dead?
Maybe...but I'll tell you what's NOT dead...paying 4X spot price for the right to own bitcoin (MSTR).

Oh, wait. Nevermind. That's dead too.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36292 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 6:22 pm to
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Seems like it’s morphed
The only thing we know is that this isn’t the case. Bitcoin is inanimate. It has no agenda. It just exists.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14900 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:59 am to
Im convinced you are trying to do reverse jinx
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49593 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:14 am to
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Bitcoin is inanimate. It has no agenda. It just exists.
show me one
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10480 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:14 pm to
Bitcoin needs to die.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82221 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:56 pm to
If you aren't invested in it, why?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36292 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Bitcoin needs to die.
Super weird take. Bitcoin doesn’t need to do anything but keep existing. And it 100% will keep existing.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36292 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:40 pm to
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If you aren't invested in it, why?
I’ve noticed it makes people uncomfortable. And honestly that’s fair. It makes me uncomfortable and I am a proponent of it.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1523 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:01 pm to
The move to 125,000 after the FTX Ponzi scheme blew up never made any sense.

Tom Lee thinks it’s going to 250,000 tho.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5343 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:18 pm to
“$250k if you believe in tokenization.” Even if you believe in tokenization, can’t you use the blockchain without buying a bitcoin?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36292 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:25 pm to
Absolutely. Tokenization and bitcoin have nothing to do with each other imo. I’d actually argue that they’re antithetical to one another. A token is a claim. Bitcoin is final settlement.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
3190 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:36 am to
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Sure you can’t make it out of thin air like the dollar but at the same time, its value is measured in dollars which is head scratching sometimes.


Sounds like gold
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38854 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:51 am to
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Super weird take. Bitcoin doesn’t need to do anything but keep existing. And it 100% will keep existing.


Agreed but, even as an investor, I have to believe it is fueled by it's black market utility
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5343 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:26 am to
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If you aren't invested in it, why?


Because people want it to stay that way. There should be a pause for concern when LASERS takes a $4 mil stake in MSTR. That was the decision of someone more afraid of being called a dinosaur than losing money.

The current interest in crypto is inorganic and simply financial engineering. Everyone knows Tom Lee is FOS, and “commercial tokenization” is just code for financial adoption by pension funds that ties up large blocks of crypto for decades…because public sentiment quickly shifts when you put it that way.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1523 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:50 am to
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Everyone knows Tom Lee is FOS


Agree. The perma bull pumpers like Tom Lee, Dan Ives, Cathy Wood don’t serve any purpose.

Posted by NoMercy
Member since Feb 2007
4767 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:57 pm to
Bitcoin just keeps going through its cycle. People are probably going to make bank on this current AI run and start rotating money to bitcoin when it bottoms in 2027. The next halving is in 2028. It will cycle up all again. All these companies didn’t make these ETFs for it to die and make no money on it. You just need to know how to play it.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36292 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:16 pm to
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Agreed but, even as an investor, I have to believe it is fueled by it's black market utility
I think this is a disconnect between people who are interested in bitcoin and people who are turned off by it.

Being the best black market money is viewed positively by bitcoiners because they largely believe that there will be upcoming periods where counterparty trust is minimal. And in that type of environment, they think bitcoin has established itself as the end game monetary system.

The one thread that seems to tie most bitcoiners together is how they similarly view game theory and what inevitably defines money.
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