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re: AUPH - Aurinia Pharmaceuticals [CEO FIRED!]

Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
2397 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:21 pm to
My only rationale is big money knew that buyout was imminent and was not bidding their shares.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6746 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:29 pm to
Well I jumped back on AH. Maybe fomo but interested to see if I can make a buck on BO
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21652 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:15 pm to
My only regret is that all of my shares are in retirement accounts or my kids utmas
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
2397 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:27 pm to
A 10% penalty on 100-400% gains is worth a little immediate withdrawal gratification.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32152 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:55 pm to
I have 10 whole shares. Someone text me when it’s the best time to sell.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37504 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:06 pm to
Did anyone catch the projected sales numbers from the last week? That, or additional study data might have been a trigger for today's buyout bid.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:23 pm to
2021 guidance has remained unchanged since 5 AUG. Greenleaf said 40-50 million.

Q3 earnings has been pegged at 14.7 million for at least 3 weeks. In all actuality I think it exceeds 18 million.

The kicker could very well be GSK’s shite data on Benlysta, which is a poor, but more established competitor to Lupkynis.
Benlysta’s two year data rendered the drug essentially useless whereas Aurinia’s Voc/Lupkynis demonstrated stellar 33 month data over the summer.

The full 3 year A2 data is due Q4. I’m sure Bristol has had a look…

All that to say, Lupkynis should soon be designated the Standard of Care for a market of 100k patients in the US alone. SOC designation should yield at least 50k patients.
50,000 x $65k annually is upwards of 3b/year with a 16 year patent life.

This has been a no brainer since phase 3 was successful in December of 2019, which is why I’ve never showed concern for the stock price when down. I’m all in.

A buyout below 7 billion would be criminal.
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:29 pm to
How did you get so interested in this stock on the front end? Do you work in this industry?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:38 pm to
I’m a history teacher.
I don’t know. I’m an obsessive reader when I get interested in something, and the more I read about AUPH the more I liked it.

I started buying just before phase 2 data readout.
I didn’t even know what a public offering was back then. I soon found out when we jumped from $3 to $10 then fell off a cliff haha.

I’ve enjoyed the process and I’ve learned a lot.
I can’t explain why it just clicked with AUPH.
I like the rare disease space now. It’s so much simpler than oncology.
Have a huge need for a small patient population with little to no competition and a successful trial drug?
Check.
Would love for it to happen again.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37504 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:00 pm to
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Benlysta’s two year data rendered the drug essentially useless whereas Aurinia’s Voc/Lupkynis demonstrated stellar 33 month data over the summer.


I think you're right. And given the lack of a competing alternative I would guess the buyout is also going to be increased by a monopoly extending through 2037 (barring a new drug sometime in the next decade).

You should feel proud of your patience
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

You should feel proud of your patience

Many smarter than me and knew what to invest in and when, but this potential home run will have me beating the hell out of the S&P over the past four years.

Motley Fool guessing the deal will be 7-8 bn.
Came out an hour ago.
Fool Article
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6746 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:49 pm to
So double the current share price.

If not out there monday PM, I might throw another 10K at it
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37504 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:52 pm to
quote:


Motley Fool guessing the deal will be 7-8 bn.
Came out an hour ago.
Fool Article


Which would imply $56 or $62 a share. And might be cheap as hell in terms of the long term value for the buyer.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 9:58 pm to
I think you’ve got 144 million total float with employee option and such.
$48.61 at 7 billion if my math is correct.
Posted by beauxgus
Bay St. Louis
Member since Jul 2016
60 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 10:14 pm to
So, was the play ever to cash out after a buyout, or do your shares roll over and you just stay on board?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 6:39 am to
Definitely cash out to better utilize that money.
Likely it’ll be a cash deal and not not a share to share swap.

So investors will lose their shares anyway.
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
617 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:34 pm to
BB88, can I be lazy and ask for your estimated share price for buyout between 6 and 11 B (at each 1 Billion increment)? TIA

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24535 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

can I be lazy and ask for your estimated share price for buyout between 6 and 11 B (at each 1 Billion increment)? TIA
I'd love to.

5B - $34.72
6B - $41.66
7B - $48.61
8B - $55.55
9B - $62.49
10B- $69.43
11B- $76.37
12B- $83.31

That should be fully dilluted with 144m shares outstanding (indludes employee packages).

The good news is I think we have a fairly hungry buyer who is feeling pressure to close a deal. BMY just got snubbed by losing 11.5% ownership in Acceleron Pharma due to Merck's 11.5 bn dollar takeover.
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
617 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 2:30 pm to
Thank you! Praying for at least a 5-handle on the price. In the money big time regardless, and have you to thank.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
2221 posts
Posted on 10/23/21 at 4:32 pm to
Crazy, dumb question. Is it too late to buy a few shares and try to swing a moderate profit?

Not trying to make a killing here. Just new to the party and never read this thread till glazing over it now.
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