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Anyone know about non-tech based Implementation Manager salaries?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:22 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:22 am
I have a phone interview today with a non-profit organization for an Implementation Manager position. I'm really excited about it because I've had a serious drought with my applications. Problem is, this job's location is in Los Angeles, so there's no way I can accept a job there unless the salary is really high.
I honestly just applied to this job flippantly. The position's responsibilities match up really, really well with my academic and work experience. But I was mostly practicing with a new cover letter and resume strategy (which I posted about here on the OT). After receiving mostly rejections or no responses for 18 months, I thought no way this company would give me the time of day.
So anyway, I started doing some research on this position and have been surprised to see that Implementation Managers typically command a fairly high salary. According to Paysa, the average salary is $118k. According to salary.com, the median is $120k with a low of $69k and a high of $154k. According to Zip Recruiter, the national average is $80k.
I'm more worried that they've mislabeled the position. Am I crazy to think I could ask for a salary around $100k? It's Los Angeles, so they have to know that they need to pay on the higher end to attract top talent.
According to their audited report from a few years ago (available online), they paid ~$2 million in salaries to 23 people and ~$200k in benefits. That's an average of $86k/person in salaries. The position is labeled mid-senior level management position.
Thoughts?
I honestly just applied to this job flippantly. The position's responsibilities match up really, really well with my academic and work experience. But I was mostly practicing with a new cover letter and resume strategy (which I posted about here on the OT). After receiving mostly rejections or no responses for 18 months, I thought no way this company would give me the time of day.
So anyway, I started doing some research on this position and have been surprised to see that Implementation Managers typically command a fairly high salary. According to Paysa, the average salary is $118k. According to salary.com, the median is $120k with a low of $69k and a high of $154k. According to Zip Recruiter, the national average is $80k.
I'm more worried that they've mislabeled the position. Am I crazy to think I could ask for a salary around $100k? It's Los Angeles, so they have to know that they need to pay on the higher end to attract top talent.
According to their audited report from a few years ago (available online), they paid ~$2 million in salaries to 23 people and ~$200k in benefits. That's an average of $86k/person in salaries. The position is labeled mid-senior level management position.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:28 am to StringedInstruments
Seems reasonable that a salary would be that in La. You have to remember salaries are adjusted for where the job is. With that said, I'm not sure that 100k is enough to live in LA, unless it's actually in the burbs somewhere. Even with your wife's salary (teacher correct?) it may not be enough money to have any kind of quality of life.
You haven't even interviewed yet, just take it one step at a time.
You haven't even interviewed yet, just take it one step at a time.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Even with your wife's salary (teacher correct?) it may not be enough money to have any kind of quality of life.
True, but one thing I'm trying to consider is being able to move up in a profession. I've been a teacher for years, so low salary is kind of set in my brain. I could accept a six figure salary job with the ability to move up or accept $50k/year the rest of my life as a teacher in Alabama.
My wife is a teacher, yes. Average pay out there is $65k/year for teachers.
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You haven't even interviewed yet, just take it one step at a time.
Yeah I know. I normally would be patient, but it's been a really hard year and a half.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:51 am to StringedInstruments
Find their form 990 and see what they are paying executives. If their CEO made $105k last year, you aren't getting $100k. 
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:17 am to Golfer
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Find their form 990 and see what they are paying executives. If their CEO made $105k last year, you aren't getting $100k.
Wow. That was super helpful.
CEO made $165k. Senior Vice President made $145k. Executive director made $151k.
$100k would probably be way high to ask for. No biggie as I’m not even considering moving to Southern California for anything less.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:36 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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With that said, I'm not sure that 100k is enough to live in LA, unless it's actually in the burbs somewhere. Even with your wife's salary (teacher correct?) it may not be enough money to have any kind of quality of life.
Depends on what you're looking for really
You can find some decent updated 2 BR apartments in the area for around 2000 a month. That's certainly feasible on a 6 figure salary plus his wife's teaching salary.
Buying might be an issue but you can find decent rentals there.
He'll have much better information to go by once he has a physical location of the office obviously.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
I’m 99% certain it’s in the heart of downtown.
I don’t mind commuting if my family is okay. I know it’s a nightmare there traffic wise, but the suburbs I’ve looked at that seem doable had ~30-45 minute drives at rush hour from the company’s address. According to GPS.
I don’t mind commuting if my family is okay. I know it’s a nightmare there traffic wise, but the suburbs I’ve looked at that seem doable had ~30-45 minute drives at rush hour from the company’s address. According to GPS.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:06 am to StringedInstruments
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CEO made $165k. Senior Vice President made $145k. Executive director made $151k.
$100k would probably be way high to ask for.
You’d be surprised.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:12 pm to StringedInstruments
Just rocked that interview. I'm sure it's customary for hiring managers to say nice things but hearing "you're a welcomed breath of fresh air" felt good.
BUT.
The location might actually be in New York City. They're reconsidering where they want this position to be. They said they would consider my preference as it doesn't really matter where it is. Los Angeles or NYC.
"We're thinking this position would start around $65k but are willing to discuss what you might need to relocate."
$65k in LA or NYC? With a family?
BUT.
The location might actually be in New York City. They're reconsidering where they want this position to be. They said they would consider my preference as it doesn't really matter where it is. Los Angeles or NYC.
"We're thinking this position would start around $65k but are willing to discuss what you might need to relocate."
$65k in LA or NYC? With a family?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:15 pm to StringedInstruments
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They said they would consider my preference as it doesn't really matter where it is.
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We're thinking this position would start around $65k
That's nice that they would let you pick which sweatshop you work in!
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:17 pm to StringedInstruments
I had an interview today with a large pharma company. I told them point blank don't even call me for a second interview if it's not at least 20% more than what I make now.
One of the most aggravating things I've experienced in my career is putting what you make now, then them matching or coming underneath at the final stage.
It's just like...why are you even wasting all of our time with this nonsense?
Did you give them any expectation for your salary up front?
One of the most aggravating things I've experienced in my career is putting what you make now, then them matching or coming underneath at the final stage.
It's just like...why are you even wasting all of our time with this nonsense?
Did you give them any expectation for your salary up front?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:17 pm to StringedInstruments
Hey at least you had the interview practice. But yeah, back to the drawing board...
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:22 pm to YoungManOldMan
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Did you give them any expectation for your salary up front?
I didn't.
If they call me back and offer me the position, I think I'm going to point out that literally every website I can find for "Implementation Manager salary" points to close to $100k for the national average. To expect someone to take a very, very average - honestly entry level for NYC - salary to perform such a job is kinda crazy honestly.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:26 pm to StringedInstruments
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think I'm going to point out that literally every website I can find for "Implementation Manager salary" points to close to $100k for the national average.
Don't do this. Just tell them you're concerned about the cost of living adjustment and ask them to reconsider. You need to understand that 100K in NYC or LA is pennies.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:16 pm to YoungManOldMan
65k there and you are wishing you were back in bama making 50k.
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