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re: All Things: Gold & Silver

Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12529 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:16 pm to
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All of my metal holdings are physical because I don't trust the unscrupulous wall street types that run everything now.


Here is my take. If we get to a point where you need the physical assets to trade, then things are so fricked up that what you will really need is guns, bullets, and canned goods.

That’s why I just stick to the commodity funds as a currency hedge. I’m betting on the devaluation of the dollar, not the complete collapse of society.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

I’m betting on the devaluation of the dollar, not the complete collapse of society.


The dollar is going away. I doubt society is going to totally collapse. I do have supplies in case, but doubt there will be an issue. Grady Judd is my sheriff.

ETA: I hold physical gold, not to trade but because I do not trust the scumbags orchestrating the paper gold dance. If you don't hold it, you don't own it are good words to live by.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:16 pm to
Just sold off some losers yesterday and have about $5k to finally dip some toes. Every time I turn on the news it's about gold lately, so for the first time I want to buy some. Reading this thread though, it seems maybe a good idea to get silver as well? Would I be smart to just get some GLD and SLV or a fund like CEF? Mining stock like this NEM? I saw WPM and GDX mentioned as well, so any advice appreciated.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by SPAGHETTI PLATE
Montgomery, Texas
Member since Jan 2025
1365 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:03 pm to
You can never time the market, but I feel like the metal spot prices are overdue for a small correction. I'd hate to have you lump sum at a top and be down 10 or 20% right after for awhile.

That said, Gold miners are making nice profits these days. I'd rather buy mining ETFs like GDX, GDXJ, SIL and SILJ than the bullion funds. There's way more upside potential with the miners.

As a first time investor I'd advise you to buy the mining ETFs rather than individual companies.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:09 pm to
Appreciate the response
Posted by SPAGHETTI PLATE
Montgomery, Texas
Member since Jan 2025
1365 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:10 pm to
Silver is at all time highs, but if you gauge it against the price action of Gold, it's still incredibly undervalued.

Historically the Gold to Silver price ratio has been around 15:1

It's only had a deep separation in modern times. We're currently at an 80:1 ratio

To put things into a better perspective: Actual mining production only has a ratio of 9:1... 9 ounces of Silver are mined and refined to every 1 ounce of Gold.

Silver is also consumed at a MUCH higher rate than Gold.

Food for thought.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:44 am to
This is what I would do, but keep in mind I am a dumbass.

I would buy a 100 oz. bar, to be saved for a long damn time. The big online places are wanting premiums for these, about $5300. I bought one last week from a local coin/metals dealer for spot, $4681. He had bought it when lower and just wanted to move it. Apparently, that is a trend with the mom and pop shops.

It costs you nothing to inquire about the price.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35417 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:17 am to
It took me about 5 minutes of research to determine that there was a huge amount of convexity in silver. Silver is actually a very important commodity and unlike gold, the mined supply of silver is mostly needed.

Volatility is criminally underpriced in the SLV options market. Selling silver calls might be the only thing that would make me more nervous than selling IBIT calls.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 7:21 am
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:43 am to
quote:

costs you nothing to inquire about the price.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:44 pm to
Brian, at National Gold Group on Oahu gave a right now cash price on a 100 oz bar of $5140. That is high, at about 400 over spot. He may negotiate a little. 949-426-7993

Something about a customer standing right there, with cash, makes them a little more user friendly.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Brian, at National Gold Group on Oahu gave a right now cash price on a 100 oz bar of $5140. That is high, at about 400 over spot. He may negotiate a little. 949-426-7993

Something about a customer standing right there, with cash, makes them a little more user friendly.



ETA: I picked up $2k in WPM earlier. Gonna get some GDX(J) as well most likely. I may end up talking to Brian in person too. Thanks guys.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4051 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Headed up the walls soon! Picture me rollin!
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9572 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:51 am to
today: "Silver Roars Higher as Short Squeeze Rocks the London Market", Bloomberg Finance

quote:

(Bloomberg) -- Silver hit the highest in decades as a historic short squeeze in London intensified, with a fresh surge in prices adding urgency to a worldwide hunt for bullion that could alleviate the mismatch between demand and supply.

Spot silver climbed as much as 3.1% to near $52 an ounce, exceeding last week’s peak, while gold surpassed $4,080 an ounce, building on a record-breaking run of eight weekly gains.

Platinum and palladium also jumped, amid signs that market stresses caused by surging investor demand are starting to spread to other precious metals.


run, baby, run ....

Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4051 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:56 am to
quote:

run, baby, run ....


Yup going to be a fun keep your metals in your own possession.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4051 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:58 am to
quote:

I bought $10,000 of SLV on the pull back yesterday. I’m now over $100,000 into GLD and SLV.


You're not going to want IOUs when the margin calls start savaging the system.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9572 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:12 am to
quote:

You're not going to want IOUs when the margin calls start savaging the system.


Yep, especially in a market that was manipulated by paper trading to the degree that precious metals have been over the last decade.. Much, much harder to get away with that now ... starting last month. Shorts are getting desperate.

hard asset with zero counterparty risk .... congrats on your purchase.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Yup going to be a fun keep your metals in your own possession.


Things are about to get turned up to 11. The short squeeze is leaving people unable to meet their obligations. The cupboard is bare.

Goodbye $4000 gold. Goodbye $49 silver.



Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12529 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:38 pm to
You guys may have convinced me to walk away from my paper silver. The gold market seems to be much larger and less volatile. Any thoughts about the future of paper holdings in gold?
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4051 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

You guys may have convinced me to walk away from my paper silver. The gold market seems to be much larger and less volatile. Any thoughts about the future of paper holdings in gold?


The whole problem with the ETFs is you basically have the fox guarding the hen house. It was JP Morgan-Chase who got fined almost $1 billion for rigging the precious metals markets and they are the custodians of the ETF?

I can easily see a world where too many of the "Authorized Participants" stand for delivery forcing BlackRock/JPMC to declare force majeure and then just buy you out of the shares at a steep discount.

Counterparty Risk is going to be the buzzphrase from this global financial crisis and so to me you need to have your precious metals in your own possession that way you are fully divested from the financial system which when the quadrillions of derivatives start getting margin called we may be witness to the biggest game of hot potato and musical chairs ever seen.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
4051 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:22 pm to


Silver in Hendrix mode... Hear my train a comin'!
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