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401K mandatory withdrawal, what to do with money?

Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:36 am
bayou choupique Sr has reached the age of 70. He is aware at 70.5 he has to begin withdrawing money out of his 401k. From what i understand he doesn't need to money or have anything planned to spend it on in the immediate future. Whey options does he have to do with the money? Can he put it back into a roth, play with stocks, etc? Any decent money market accounts to look into? Suggestions please money board.
Posted by Tigersaint09
St Petersburg
Member since Dec 2013
1124 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:37 am to
Do you even crypto bruh?
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17850 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:49 am to
Damn what a nice problem to have
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:05 am to
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Do you even crypto bruh?
no way he would figure that out. he does buy gold and silver coins from time to time.

Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:32 am to
We talking $1200 a month or $20,500 a month.
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

We talking $1200 a month or $20,500 a month.


i'm not sure of his balance. He worked in the oil field for 8 years or so and this is from his old company. He was a teacher the rest of the time and receives a pension from teacher's retirement. I'm going to assume its on the lower end of the spectrum, but it has not been touched from 1985.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:47 am to
If he had just $10,000.00 in it, after 32 years it's likely he has somewhere between $85,000-$150,000 depending what the average return was.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:49 am to
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Suggestions please money board.


If he already makes charitable donations. Have him do it as a direct transfer from the RMD (required minimum distribution) to the charity.

Alternatively, convert the RMD's, or some of the 401k, into a donor advised fund.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:54 am to
Tell him to gift it to his favorite son.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:31 am to
If he doesn't need the money and is comfortable investing it he could do it in a Roth. That way any gains aren't taxable, and he can pull out the contribution if he ever needs to.
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:43 am to
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If he doesn't need the money and is comfortable investing it he could do it in a Roth. That way any gains aren't taxable, and he can pull out the contribution if he ever needs to.



that is what i was thinking but was unsure if you could do that, thanks!
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:21 pm to
Wouldn't he have to have earned income to be able to contribute to a roth? I don't think distributions are considered earned income.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Whey options does he have to do with the money?


pay someone $50 to set up a binance account for you
invest all into crypto
double your money
cash out

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63065 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:33 pm to
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double your money
cash out



Wouldn't that just double his problem?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't think distributions are considered earned income.

They sure as hell tax traditional 401k distributions as regular income.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:40 pm to
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They sure as hell tax traditional 401k distributions as regular income.




Yes, they do. Social Security does not consider distributions as earned income.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:45 pm to
You have to withdraw a certain percentage as taxable income, just like any other income. There's no way to save on taxes that I know of, I can't imagine there would be otherwise it would make no sense to force people to withdraw.

But just like any other taxable income, he could place it in a Roth or another investment account, savings, etc.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:51 pm to
Dunno

quote:

IRS rules prohibit putting your RMD into another tax-advantaged retirement account. But you can convert the remaining portion of your traditional IRA assets to a Roth IRA, though it will mean paying more taxes. “You just have to satisfy the RMD requirement before you do a Roth conversion,” says Mingone. (If you aren’t working and receiving earned income, you can’t make a contribution to a Roth but once the money is in a traditional IRA, you don’t need to have additional earned income to move the money to a Roth IRA.)
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:56 pm to
If I die at 70. Does my balance become a tax free inheritance to my kids?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:57 pm to
No
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