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re: Your Level of Trust in Les Miles

Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:38 pm to
Staying the same.

Most of our current problems aren't things that can be fixed on a week to week basis. Some things will have to be addressed after the season. The way Miles addresses them may change my level.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:38 pm to
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level was low came up some with the national championship..and now it is right back where it was when he gave his first presser..............believe me his stay will be short



I have similar views.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 2:42 pm to
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We may very well get down to top 15 defense, but that's not likely and besides the point.

We have one good defensive game and you think our defense is going to move up 10 spots with the remaining games?


You might recall this, in 2005, LSU under new DC Pelini, LSU had the #105 Total Defense in the Nation. "Tepperlini!!" Remember Bob? After the Bowl game, that Number was #3 in the Nation. Shut these same fools up quickly. Same people posting the "Malveto!!" BS.

1 Good Defensive game? Did you miss the South Carolina game? Name 1 another team to hold Steve Spurrier to 52 yards in 1 half of football.

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Troy's offense is better than Tulane's, as are Bama's, OM's and Arky's. They are all improving (with Bama somewhat struggling of late), but they will not be walkovers like Tulane who lost its best 2 offensive players prior to the LSU game.


I see it might be a struggle to get that number under 10 or 13, but I think LSU will beat Bama & Ole Miss. Troy will be an easy win. Miles doesn't play down to the level of competition like Saban did at LSU. Arkansas has no McFadden or Felix Jones.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62612 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:01 pm to
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Miles didn't lose 4 games in year 1 or 5 games in year 3 like Saban did.

No shite. Miles inherited a FAR more talented team than Saban.

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As for the Mike Archer remark, don't remember him winning a National Championship at LSU

The NC is a curse. Miles should have blown it with the loss to Arkansas and their high school offense, but MIRACULOUSLY, all of the right teams lost. It was a fluke, but unfortunately, one that will lead you gung ho tards to follow him down the hole for another decade - like Fulmer.

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In fact, I remember him having 1 double digit WIN season

Um, teams played fewer games back then. It's easier to win 10 games when you play as many as 14.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:18 pm to
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Everyone last year knew tOSU was a fraud and even Herbstreit claimed they didn't belong.


I don't put ANY stock in ESPN unlike you Bob.
Especially Herbstreit, a guy right before Miles took his team into win the SEC Title, falsely announced he had accepted a job at Michigan.
Apparaently the Coaches & the AP Decided they were the best team in America, before LSU beat them in the NC. And the Stats don't lie, Ohio State had the #1 Defense (NCAA) in the land when LSU defeated them.
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Did it not take a rash of upsets to get LSU back into the MNC game last season? Seriously? Pitt had to beat WVU, OU had to beat Mizzou, etc.

That's why teams play games, otherwise they would just hand southern Cal the trophy every year. And Saban backed in bigtime.
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Being the first 2 loss championship team is not something to brag about.We can claim we are champions, fine, but don't go claiming we did something amazing by being the first 2-loss MNC.

Not surprisingly, I disagree with you. LSU proved it was the best College Football team in America last year. And when a Team & Coach can do that, it is something quite Amazing indeed. Nobody can ever take that away from that team.
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As for the OT-losses. Bad coaching cost us those games. We should've won both, plain and simple. Stupid coaching decisions by Miles and Pelini costs us both of those games.

Bad coaching must have missed the block on Scott's 1 yard attempt? Bad Coaching had the TE (Saban recruit...Zinger) dropping the game winning TD that was placed perfectly in his hands? Arkansas had the best SEC RB I've seen since Bo Jackson in Darren McFadden & not too shabby backup in 1st rounder Felix Jones. Kentucky had a great QB in Heisman Candidate Andre Woodson. Both were hard to defend. Then finding out LSU's All-SEC LB'er Ali Highsmith was running a 5.01 40 time & trying to chase down McFadden & Jones explains some things...If you want to go the blame the coaches all the time go ahead, but neither Arky or KY could beat LSU in Regulation. Not long ago both those games would have ended with a TIE.
Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:22 pm to
Umm... in 2005 we also had the most devastating hurricane in recent Louisiana history and Pelini was implementing a completely new system, so issues were expected to exist. People were more frustrated with his stubbornness to adjust, which was valid. See Arky last year.

Rankin in the top 15 even with this shitty schedule is meaningless. We'll have played likely 4 viable offenses before the bowl game AT MOST! Auburn, MSU, USCe's offenses have sucked most of the year. We got blown out defensively by UGA and UF. Appy, North texas and Tulane all have horrible offenses.

Fact is there has been no improvement on defense outside that we just played weak competition that was way out talented. We won't have that advantage the rest of the year.

As for the USCe game, they played one good half. It was great, but don't make out USCe to be like on of Spurrier's teams. Vandy held them to low scoring too as did UGA.

You can suck Miles dick all you want, but as another poster said, we lucked into the 2007 MNC more than any team in history, and with that Miles got a free pass for being LUCKY! I think he's a good coach, but not very good at certain things.

I respect Saban, but never really liked him. He simply is better at accounting for his weaknesses.
Posted by Complete Linebacking
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2004
1052 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:41 pm to
Just curious,

What is LSU's scoring defense since that's the only category that really matters? Also what's their scoring defense against SEC opponents, only?

Thanks in advance, I'll be looking forward to seeing the results
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464403 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:45 pm to
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What is LSU's scoring defense since that's the only category that really matters?

it's not a great judge

yards per play is the best individual stat
Posted by Aktig
Alaska/Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
2190 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:49 pm to
Shut these same fools up quickly. Same people posting the "Malveto!!" BS.


LOL@you. Do you actually believe the defensive coordinators have LSU on the right track? There is so much confusion out there, the kids don't have a freaking chance. Do you like the product you see? Can you honestly say it's going in the right direction? Hell no. LSU is ranked below LOUISVILLE in total D, despite playing three cupcakes, Auburn, Moo U, SCe.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33369 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:54 pm to
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decreasing because of the debacle at CoDC this year.
Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 3:56 pm to
I never said LSU didn't deserve it last year, but to claim Miles did something amazing with that team is bullshite. He got lucky. REALLY LUCKY that his mistakes during the season in games like UK, Arky, BAMA, and so forth didn't cost us.

We didn't lose the UK game on that one play. We lead by nearly 2 TDs in the 4th and let them come back with our vaunted defense.

We then shut down Arky, only to make bone head plays after bone head plays, and not stick with our strength.

We needed a comeback to beat Bama who was 6-6 on the season when it finished, so pardon me if I think we got quite lucky to win those games.

LSU had a brainfart in 03, but dominated every other game that season, so they deserved it just as much if not more. Also, they lost ONE game, not two, and there no other teams with 1 loss or less than the three mentioned (OU, USC, and LSU). In 2007 you had how many 2-loss teams that had a case? OU, LSU, UGA, VT, Missouri, WVU? plus more i am forgetting i am sure.

Fact is that we were lucky that we jumped 5 spots in the last poll thanks to lobbying by ESPN and others. If you don't think that affected voters than you really are ignorant of reality.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 4:12 pm to
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Fact is that we were lucky that we jumped 5 spots in the last poll thanks to lobbying by ESPN and others. If you don't think that affected voters than you really are ignorant of reality.


actually the fact is that the circumstances last year caused the voters to have to correct the flaws of their "knock-down/bubble-up" method of ranking. They realized that having teams like GA and VaTech in front of LSU was ridiculous, just like Ok in front of Tx righ now is bogus. Had there been 2 1-loss teams, they probably wouldn't have jumped LSU up.

We also got lucky in 03 when a couple of low level WAC/Mtn West games broke our way to knock USC's SOS down enough to put us in front of them.

Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 4:18 pm to
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No shite. Miles inherited a FAR more talented team than Saban.

Go check the Draft Board for players DiNardo left Saban. I counted at least 12 or 13 players Drafted by the NFL & many NFL Free Agents. Bradie Joames, Josh Reed, Dom Davis, LaBrandon Toefield, Jarvis Green, Howard Green etc, etc. That's not even counting great players that went undrafted, but were All-SEC types, Trev Faulk comes to mind among others.

By the way Saban brought in 25 Linebackers to LSU. How many were Drafted by NFL teams? ZERO! :EPIC FAIL:

I'm sure Miles enjoyed having to move a bunch of Defensive Tackles to the Offensive Line due to Saban's pitiful OL recruiting.
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The NC is a curse.... It was a fluke, but unfortunately, one that will lead you gung ho tards to follow him down the hole for another decade - like Fulmer.

A curse?? To whom? Certainly not LSU fans. Miles wins more games than ANY Football coach in 100+ years of Football. Fulmer's been coaching Tennesee since 1993, I suspect you were about 7-10 years old when he started. 9 of the 16 years he's coached there have been double digit win seasons. 1 National Championship, 2 SEC Championships & 5 SEC East Titles. Yeah blueboy he's was a terrible hire for Tennessee. :fail:

Perhaps some of us "gung ho tards" are happy with Miles because his teams have been ranked Top 5 every single year so far?

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Um, teams played fewer games back then. It's easier to win 10 games when you play as many as 14.

Um, I know I was there..where you? Archer had 1 very good season, sorry. In year 3 of Archer, he wasn't going to the NC or even to a Bowl, he went 4-7. Damn, you sure can keep coming with excuses..
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 4:20 pm
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
71184 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 4:33 pm to
I cannot get over how many LSU rantards are pulling for coaches to fail. yall are stupid.

If you cannot be behind a coach that has helped win 11 games a year for the past three years, then there is no help for you folks.

jesus...


Fear the Hat

Fear the Tigers

Fear the Rantards more...

Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 4:48 pm to
People aren't giving up on Miles, some of us are just realistic. He's done a solid job here the past 3 years, but when the defense has dropped off so much because he decided to promote two guys with no DC experience (REAL experience) than what do you expect from people.

We are disappointed that he let loyalty cost us a lot this season. The worst part is that to improve punt and kickoff coverage, we sacrificed our defense. That was a big mistake.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 4:57 pm to
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You can suck Miles dick all you want, but as another poster said, we lucked into the 2007 MNC more than any team in history, and with that Miles got a free pass for being LUCKY! I think he's a good coach, but not very good at certain things.

I respect Saban, but never really liked him. He simply is better at accounting for his weaknesses.


He's a lying sack of boiling hot shite! He accounts for himself only & flat out lies everybody. Told the President of the United States he was "Too busy with practice" to have lunch with the man, when he was in town. Regardless of Saban's liberal Kent State Schooling, that is just common decency, which he lacks as a human being. On top of that, it was just another lie. His Miami Dolphins team that year was one of the worst in Franchise history. He didn't have a clue what he was doing. NADA.

As far as "Dick Sucking", looks like you will be joining some other posters here getting the "Saban kneepad treatment"..balls across the chin. You don't like Miles personality? Think he talks funny? Don't want him as LSU's coach? Write LSU a letter so they can laugh at you. Better yet, write Verge & tell him of your plight.

Lucked into 2003 & 2007. So your opinion is 2003 was "Betterer"? Bob, don't ever say you've been an LSU supporter since before I was born. Opinions don't really matter. Facts do. And the Fact is LSU is the undisputed National Champ for the 2007 season. LSU shares the 2003 National Champ with USC.

ETA: Bob are you a "Ditch Digging Coonass"? Nick Saban thinks you are because "You know how they talk there".
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 5:02 pm
Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
2965 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 5:01 pm to
High level of trust.

90% of the problems we are having are because of one person whose name I can't mention on this board without getting the rantards riled up.

Miles is a good coach.

We won a NC last year.

Dam it's so obvious!!!
This post was edited on 11/2/08 at 5:02 pm
Posted by jacksimmons2000
Savannah, GA
Member since Nov 2006
778 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 5:04 pm to
I love Miles - best LSU coach ever!

That said, he is having a bad year. Of course, let's not forget that Saban laid an egg the year after his National Championship too.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
71184 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 5:04 pm to
I don't know if it was a mistake, or just no alternative. Look, we all know you have to have the leader, as a dc. I sure hope they all come knockin at the door as it is quite evident that LSU needs one. We needed one when Pelini left.
All those choice dc's knew we needed one. So I am guessing they just could not get the one they wanted and decided to wait.

My level of trust in Miles has been very high since the day he came to LSU.





Posted by kdman0335
At work
Member since Jul 2007
1452 posts
Posted on 11/2/08 at 5:35 pm to
I trust he said that the defense is fixed. But it looked like a bunch of grade school kids trying to learn spanish if you ask me.
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