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re: Yahoo report re: Wade wiretap discuss IN THIS THREAD
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:04 pm to bonniebeavermd
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:04 pm to bonniebeavermd
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That's not the way the NCAA works. They don't have subponea powers nor can they force people to cooperate. They don't have to "prove" anything. They're perfectly content depending on hearsay, innuendo and circumstantial evidence.
Fine. If they single us out, have Wade start doing tell-all interviews with any reporter who wants them.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 6:07 pm
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:18 pm to Philippines4LSU
They can’t single us out because they know the whole system will come crashing down. Wade should do what everyone else has done when their name comes up and that is deny deny deny. If there’s no way they can prove he provided payments and benefits, they can’t touch him. There are a lot of loopholes in this argument working for his benefit. And frick Forde wolken, and Wetzel
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:20 pm to sertorius
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I know a high school coach who has told me that if Wade pleads the fifth then LSU has no choice but to cut ties.
And that’s part of the reason he’s a high school coach.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:21 pm to The Truth 34
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he good thing about this is he won’t have to play any road games moving forward, so no harassing students to get after him.
Very good point.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:23 pm to Areddishfish
I mean lsu had a top 10 bball recruiting class 3 years ago, but whatever helps your case in pleading that lsu doesnt get big recruits often
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:24 pm to Old Money
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FWIW Alleva has told Wade he needs to lay low and just focus on the team/stay away from any drama. This comes from one of the local LSU reporters.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:25 pm to ApexTiger
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If we're going tap phone without FISA warrants, it's time to start buying guns...
Do you know what FISA stands for?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:30 pm to Hurricane Mike
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Do you know what FISA stands for?
It stands for the time the FBI was wire tapping Dale Brown for his conversations with Sabonis in Russia!
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:31 pm to bonniebeavermd
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Again, the UofL case is the perfect example. There wasn't a single shred of direct evidence proving money exchanged hands between a UofL staff member and the strippers. No paper trail, no nothing. There was actually court testimony and evidence (lack thereof) to the contrary.
The NCAA's core evidence was the biased testimony of recruits who were supposedly present and/or partook. I say biased because take Blakeney for example. The NCAA went to him and told him to play ball, tell them what they want to know, and they'd give him immunity. They dangled his eligibility over his head. That's coercion and it gave Blakeney every incentive to lie or to at least say whatever, trying to keep his eligibility and appease the NCAA.
Okay.
If anything happens to us, I want football players coming out and claiming Saban offered to back the armored car up to their homes, true or not.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:51 pm to Broski
The sharks are circling and smell blood in the water.
USAToday- LSU should not be allowed in March Madness
Guilty until proven innocent!
ETA: BigEdLSU, do you understand NOW why I said yesterday that I’m a “little nervous” about the Will Wade wiretapping stuff. I wasn’t “shitting on basketball” and it has NOTHING to do with race. Dumbass.
USAToday- LSU should not be allowed in March Madness
Guilty until proven innocent!
ETA: BigEdLSU, do you understand NOW why I said yesterday that I’m a “little nervous” about the Will Wade wiretapping stuff. I wasn’t “shitting on basketball” and it has NOTHING to do with race. Dumbass.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:52 pm to ibldprplgld
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This doesn't look good, but absent clear evidence of a money trail, nothing is going to stick to Wade or LSU.
You don't need a money trail, you don't even need to actually commit a crime to be charged under federal conspiracy statutes. If what Wade and Dawkins discussed is actually illegal they engaged in conspiracy to commit a crime.
LINK
"A conspiracy occurs when two or more people agree to commit an illegal act and take some step toward its completion. Conspiracy is an inchoate crime because it does not require that the illegal act actually have been completed."
Elements of a Conspiracy
"Conspiracy first requires a showing that two or more people were in agreement to commit a crime. This agreement does not have to be formal or in writing. All that is required is that the parties had a mutual understanding to undertake an unlawful plan."
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:56 pm to EA6B
Wade is't on trial here...
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:59 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Wade is't on trial here...
Who said he was? The prior poster said they had nothing on Wade since no money changed hand, I said it is not necessary for the crime of conspiracy.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:02 pm to EA6B
Just came to say, if LSU makes a strong tourney run can you imagine how awesome of a 30 for 30 this season will make? Starting with the Sims shooting, all the nail-biters, investigations.. it will be a hell of a segment.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:05 pm to EA6B
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Who said he was? The prior poster said they had nothing on Wade since no money changed hand, I said it is not necessary for the crime of conspiracy.
Conspiring to pay recruits isn’t a crime though..
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:19 pm to alessic7
I'm afraid that Wade will be fired. LSU is a football school. Why attract attention from the NCAA? LSU can win in FB without cheating given the talent in the area and the facilities. Wade will be scarified to make sure FB is allowed to go on unhindered.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:26 pm to Broski
Report that came out about Sean Miller last year had a bunch of inconsistencies once it was dissected. Always more to the story. Don't need to do anything until the other shoe drops. Will see what Dawkins says and what comes out of Wade's testimony in April if he doesn't plead the fifth.
Nothing he said in that report is damning in court, plenty of room for reasonable doubt. NCAA gets to make up their own rules and interpretations of evidence as they go. Such hypocrites and so inconsistent with punishment and haven't done anything to show leniency to schools that make effort to comply or self-impose sanctions. Why jump on the sword in advance to try to save yourself a little pain? Don't make it easy on them.
Nothing he said in that report is damning in court, plenty of room for reasonable doubt. NCAA gets to make up their own rules and interpretations of evidence as they go. Such hypocrites and so inconsistent with punishment and haven't done anything to show leniency to schools that make effort to comply or self-impose sanctions. Why jump on the sword in advance to try to save yourself a little pain? Don't make it easy on them.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:30 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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LSU is a football school.
I must have missed that game
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:38 pm to Elleshoe
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Conspiring to pay recruits isn’t a crime though..
You would be wrong, it was considered committing fraud against the university in the previous prosecutions of coaches. The coaches were paid salaries by the universities with the understanding that their sports program would be operated under applicable NCAA rules. Paying players exposed the university to NCAA violations, possible fines, and loss of the sports program, and associated revenue.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:42 pm to alessic7
It would be legendary, man every where I look on the freaking internet it's an all out feeding fest on wade and Dawkins, I'm so sick of the media including r own like Michael gobble on channel 2, saying "it's bad " to Our coach when he has no effing idea to what is going on anymore than any of the thousands of fans that support this team Boot the F Up, and let's go give the whole freaking country the middle finger , u 2 Cauble, unbelievable man I'm pissed. Also 110 percent behind Will and this team . F YAHOO, F CAUBLE, F JAY WILLIAMS JUST CAUSE HES GAY AND NO ONE LIKES HIS INSIGHT GEAUXXXXXXXX TIGAZZZZZ BOOT THE F up!!!!
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