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re: WVU fans thought's
Posted on 9/25/11 at 1:59 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
Posted on 9/25/11 at 1:59 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
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turnovers in the way WVU had them are self inflicted
Wrong. Two were Mathieu-inflicted.
And WVU forced ZERO turnovers while LSU literally gave away 8 points on the Randle drop and PAT botch.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:02 am to Jwho77
If we are going to be stupid and talk woulda shoulda coulda then how many interceptions did LSU defenders drop?
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:04 am to southernelite
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TM7 straight up took the ball out of the dudes hands? hows that self-inflicted?
There was nothing there to keep RR2 from catching the damn ball, however, the LSU D was all the frick over WV making shite happen. Good defenses cause offenses to hurt themselves, and that's what it was.
Have you heard of the term "ball security"? Are you seriously going to argue another players literally taking the ball from another hand's is not an avoidable play? TM7 is great, but he's not "will the ball out of the opponents clutches" great, that's sloppy carrying accompanied by fantastic defensive concentration.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:05 am to omegaman66
quote:I don't know because that was clearly the opposite of my point.
If we are going to be stupid and talk woulda shoulda coulda then how many interceptions did LSU defenders drop?
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:05 am to NorthernWV
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Louisiana's own Dustin Garrison was the only small spark in our run game
Where in La. is this guy from?
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:06 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
quote:yes.
Have you heard of the term "ball security"?
quote:That play, probably not.
Are you seriously going to argue another players literally taking the ball from another hand's is not an avoidable play?
quote:he makes shite happen.
TM7 is great, but he's not "will the ball out of the opponents clutches" great,
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:12 am to southernelite
Getting stripped is an avoidable play, it's not like a big KO hit where you pop the ball out. That is not to say it does not deserve praise, but being stripped is a loss in the battle of heart and concentration. Someone literally just came up and wanted that ball more.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:16 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
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#4 Was I that hammered or was Kraft there?
Yes and Yes.
FYI, Regarding LSU naughty fan myths: topping the list is the legend that we pushed over grandma (from the opposing team, but of course) whilst she was taking a weewee break in a porta-pottie. I'd tell you it never happened, but then that would ruin the legendary LSU naughty fan myth.
Best of luck to WVA the rest of year. Hope you win your conference and the rest of your games.
FOREVER

Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:17 am to southernelite
It all boils down to the age old saying...
Offense wins games and Defense wins championships
Offense wins games and Defense wins championships
Posted on 9/25/11 at 2:20 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
Exactly, two people wanted it. One got it. In the RR2 situation, one person just didn't want it. You can't compare the two, which is what you tried to do.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 8:02 am to TigersInExile
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FYI, Regarding LSU naughty fan myths: topping the list is the legend that we pushed over grandma (from the opposing team, but of course) whilst she was taking a weewee break in a porta-pottie. I'd tell you it never happened, but then that would ruin the legendary LSU naughty fan myth.
Best of luck to WVA the rest of year. Hope you win your conference and the rest of your games.
I'll one up you, we've had the porter potty myth, but we've actually got a long standing myth that one of our fans went into the GT band section when they were performing at halftime and dropped a deuce.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 8:08 am to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
good post, I actually read it. Sometimes I amaze myself.
Posted on 9/25/11 at 4:36 pm to SnogsDontPay4Pizza
I still think there's a difference between self inflicted wounds and forced turnovers. When Tyrann Mathieu comes out of nowhere and tips the ball to himself, it's him making a play, not Geno really shooting himself in the foot. The same is true when Mathieu rips the ball out of a guy's hands. That's Mathieu making a play. Not a screw up. If Geno makes a bad throw that lands in the hands of a DB because it was overthrown or underthrown or thrown too late, then you could probably make an argument for self-inflicted wounds, but the fact is that LSU has amassed turnovers in all of their games against pretty stiff competition. Eventually, you have to acknowledge that it's not just the teams they're playing screwing up, but it's LSU making plays. The patterns don't lie.
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