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re: Would you trade Fournette for Mathieu this year.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:19 am to NoNameTiger
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:19 am to NoNameTiger
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Which is why it is odd that so many "fans" are so quick to just toss him to the trash heap.
No one is tossing him on a trash heap. Trading for Tyrann Mathieu is not what's done with trash. I don't see how you inferred that? In fact, Fournette and Mathieu should each be honored by the comparison. Plus, it's hypothetical, goofus.
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:38 am to Penrod
No way in hell.
TM7 was an animal but lets bump this thread mid season when Tra White has multiple sacks, forced fumbles, ints being used as a "Honeybadger" role with a way smarter defensive coordinator putting him in position to succeed.
If Chavis were still running the show. Maybe I'd make this swap but with our phenonminal DB's. Lets keep the GOAT RB and hope we have a passing attack that allows him to break multiple 60+ yd TD's
TM7 was an animal but lets bump this thread mid season when Tra White has multiple sacks, forced fumbles, ints being used as a "Honeybadger" role with a way smarter defensive coordinator putting him in position to succeed.
If Chavis were still running the show. Maybe I'd make this swap but with our phenonminal DB's. Lets keep the GOAT RB and hope we have a passing attack that allows him to break multiple 60+ yd TD's
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:30 am to Duck enticer
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We have someone of Guice's caliber every year at LSU
No sir! Kevin Faulk, Jeremy Hill, Dalton Hilliard and Fournette. Those are the only backs comparable to Guice in the last 25 years. As good as Joseph Addai and LaBrandon Toefield were, they were not at Guice's level.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:37 am to SBvital
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I think after Bama last year he has something to prove
He had something to prove before Bama last year. WTF is that? Something to prove? If we beat Bama this year do we go out in 2017 and half-arse it because we no longer have something to prove? That's loser talk, man.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:38 am to lsu2006
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And your dumbass thinks this somehow has anything to do with the thread. You hate Mathieu. We get it, Lee.
Someone criticizes TM and they're the dumazz? We get what the thread is about you fking idiot. But these people that wanna put him on a pedestal above LF and somehow believe he could actually win games for us by hinself???...really??? You're the dense one simpleton.
He made some spectacular plays while he was here but a dominant running back is gonna have more impact on the final score than a DB making a play or two that may or may not affect the momentum of the game.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:41 am to NoNameTiger
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Tyran was a game changer but he no showed twice in the same seaon against Bama
What? You mean when he was part of a defense that went almost two complete games without letting Bama cross our goal line? This, even though our offense was giving Bama the ball in good field position and leaving our defense on the field too long.
If you fail to realize how heroic that defense played in both Bama games that year, then you just don't understand the game. And Tyrann was a big part of that. I'll never forget when they isolated that big tight end on him, and Tyrann manhandled him in the open field.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:52 am to D2F Ratio
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Mathhuei was good at a lot of things but great at none
Yes, I have to agree with you. Mathieu was clearly not great at stripping the football and scoring TDs.
In fact, Mathieu was great at just about everything. Remember when Florida, out of desperation, put the game in Andre Debose's hands? They sent him on a fly on successive possessions. He beat Mo Claiborne for a TD on the first one. On the next possession they tested the Badger. It was mano y mano, Mathieu against the fastest WR in football. Mahieu was step-for-step and won the jump ball in the end zone. Game. Set. Match!
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:07 am to Penrod
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It was mano y mano, Mathieu against the fastest WR in football. Mahieu was step-for-step and won the jump ball in the end zone. Game. Set. Match!
I got chills reading that. He truly was special. Hate he didnt get a ring. That '11 team was something else.
to the '16 team going start to FINISH like '11 did(and didnt). I think we have the personnel to do so. Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:29 am to beauchristopher
If I'm choosing either player for one season, I'm taking TM7.
I think a better trade proposal (or mock fantasy draft to be more accurate) is whether you take Patrick Peterson or TM7.
I think a better trade proposal (or mock fantasy draft to be more accurate) is whether you take Patrick Peterson or TM7.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:33 am to south bama tiger
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I think a better trade proposal (or mock fantasy draft to be more accurate) is whether you take Patrick Peterson or TM7.
lucidity...its a good thing...finally a correct comparison.
TM7 for me thank you!
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:55 am to dreaux
Nice question. I'd go w yes
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:30 am to Penrod
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No one is tossing him on a trash heap. Trading for Tyrann Mathieu is not what's done with trash. I don't see how you inferred that? In fact, Fournette and Mathieu should each be honored by the comparison. Plus, it's hypothetical, goofus.
This.
The outrage those 2 shared was laughable.
There are 2 players since Les took over that I would trade LF7 for, and it is mainly b/c of how valuable their positions are in comparison to the RB position.
TM7 because I've never seen another player like him.
JR because we'd be set at the QB position.
That is it. 1 led the bcs in passer rating, the other is an all-pro safety/corner/linebacker.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:33 am to south bama tiger
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I think a better trade proposal (or mock fantasy draft to be more accurate) is whether you take Patrick Peterson or TM7.
TM7 and this one really isn't close.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:40 am to Tigers_Saints
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TM7 and this one really isn't close.
I disagree. I'd take TM7 but Peterson has more value than you're admitting and I think it is close. Peterson could lock down the elite Julio Jones and AJ Green types better than TM7 could and was about as good on special teams.
That being said TM7 is going to get you more sacks and fumbles, which is why I give him the marginal edge in value.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:43 am to south bama tiger
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but Peterson has more value than you're admitting
He has plenty of value, just not nearly as versatile as TM7 and doesn't impact the game the same way.
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That being said TM7 is going to get you more sacks and fumbles, which is why I give him the marginal edge in value.
More sacks, fumbles, interceptions/pd's, tackles. He can also provide you depth at Safety, nickel, corner, and is outstanding in run support.
And while Peterson is an elite cover corner, TM7 is pretty damn special there too
Turnovers provide the biggest impact on a football game. 8 turnovers in 2011 alone. It's just unreal.
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and was about as good on special teams.
On the return side, sure. TM7 was the best gunner we have ever had
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 1:30 pm to Tigers_Saints
On the return side, sure. TM7 was the best gunner we have ever had
JARVIS LANDRY SAYS HELLO
JARVIS LANDRY SAYS HELLO
Posted on 7/29/16 at 1:37 pm to Prairievillian
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On the return side, sure. TM7 was the best gunner we have ever had
JARVIS LANDRY SAYS HELLO
We gave up something like 6 yards in put coverage going into the national championship in 2011. Landry could supply a hit, but I disagree.
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This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 1:50 pm to JETigER
So false. Lmao. There was no getting ready for The Honey Badger 
Guy had that IT factor. You just had to accept he was gonna do something amazing that will leave you looking stupid.
Guy had that IT factor. You just had to accept he was gonna do something amazing that will leave you looking stupid. Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:31 pm to The Hurricane
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TM had the ability to do things on defense and special teams that no current player could.
Eh, if you look at individual plays, LSU has lots of guys that can make those plays if they're in the perfect spot. What made Mathieu so special was that game after game he was right there. A nose for the ball like no one I've seen.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:35 pm to Tigers_Saints
We gave up something like 6 yards in put coverage going into the national championship in 2011. Landry could supply a hit, but I disagree
BRAD WING SAYS HELLO
BRAD WING SAYS HELLO
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