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re: Would You Say That Maineri Wins Mostly on Talent and Passion Rather Than Coaching Acumen?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:40 am to lsufball19
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:40 am to lsufball19
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And it very nearly blew up in his face. If Deichman's grounder isn't hit quite so hard or goes a couple feet to the left of the first baseman, it's a tie game and he burned their game 3 starter.
That's assuming Florida doesn't score anymore runs. After Hess what did LSU have left in the pen. The odds were much better for Florida tonight using this starter later in game 2 in a tie game. They had a starting pitcher for extra innings while we would have had nothing. It was the right move going for the win tonight instead of having to face LSU's ace tomorrow with your number 3 pitcher.
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:44 am to Tigerbait357
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Its part of being a coach too, sometimes you got to go with your gut at times. There will be many times it will work and then times that it doesn't. Its just going to happen, its part of the game.
I definitely agree 100%.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:54 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:and Faedo too...
with your number 3 pitcher.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:57 am to chalmetteowl
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and Faedo too...
They said if Faedo pitched they only expected to get 1 or 2 innings out of him on Wednesday.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:32 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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where you see sloppy coaching especially with base running and when to take a pitcher out of the game.
This happens for every college baseball program. You just don't pay attention to it as much as you do lsu's mistakes.
Never in the entire history of sports has a head coach been perfect and not made a mistake.
Choose any college baseball head coach and you will find bone headed mistakes.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:39 am to shutterspeed
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And that's not a knock. It just seems like Maineri often gets outclassed in games by other coaches/teams. More often than not, the players come through to overcome questionable decisions.
Since he was hired no program has won more series against ranked opponents than lsu.
But hey why look that up when you can just shite on PM?
It's funny watching posters like you say in spite of PM, lsu wins on talent" and in the same thread blame him for the bad things.
You don't give PM credit for all the big series wins and yet blame him for the bad outcomes.
Either he is responsible for the outcomes at lsu whether we win or lose or its the talent.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:18 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:you really believe that BS in game 3 of the CWS finals? at the least, i would have thought he was going 4 or 5 innings.
They said if Faedo pitched they only expected to get 1 or 2 innings out of him on Wednesday.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:46 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:Live with it because he aint goin nowhere. (Unless he resigns, retires or takes another position)
Maineri's in game decisions are without a doubt worse compared to the other top managers.
Snowflake Snow Peas aint about to do anything in regards to his "In-Game Decisions."
The program needs a great hitting coach and much better relief pitching, but Peas doesn't care about any of that and will not do anything at all to move the program forward.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 3:02 am to semjase
You are insufferable.
He gets to Omaha, not only that, through the two elimination games, one series against a team that was "unbeatable," gets to the finals yet you say he doesn't care about any in game decisions nor does anything to move the program forward. (Getting it to the finals seems like moving it forward but since you know more, explain what he should've done)
Do you enjoy negative attention or what? Differing on opinions is one thing, what you do/post is completely different.
Explain it to me if I am incorrect in my interpretation of your post. By all means.
He gets to Omaha, not only that, through the two elimination games, one series against a team that was "unbeatable," gets to the finals yet you say he doesn't care about any in game decisions nor does anything to move the program forward. (Getting it to the finals seems like moving it forward but since you know more, explain what he should've done)
Do you enjoy negative attention or what? Differing on opinions is one thing, what you do/post is completely different.
Explain it to me if I am incorrect in my interpretation of your post. By all means.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 3:16 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:18 am to KingwoodLsuFan
I would say NO
you had to post this
you had to post this
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:15 am to shutterspeed
Yes I would say that, and have said that for some time. He is Les in baseball pants.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:31 am to shutterspeed
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Would You Say That Maineri Wins Mostly on Talent and Passion Rather Than Coaching Acumen?
Well. Obviously, the guy can coach. LSU wouldn't be as good as they are if he couldn't. Even with good recruiting.
But, damn, they're a team that doesn't play fundamentals baseball and THAT is coaching.
So, to answer. He wins on both talent and coaching. But, he has some holes. His teams make mental errors at an incredibly high rate for that level of baseball.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:33 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:newman had a better era thru the season than Hess did at the CWS
Hess wasn't the closer all year is baffling
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:35 am to tigerfoot
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Hess wasn't the closer all year is baffling
newman had a better era thru the season than Hess did at the CWS
And, Hess grew in to being a closer.
You don't just stumble onto campus as the closer.
I mean, it's fun to pick at the coach on occasion. But shite. Closer is a position you kind of prove yourself at. You don't get identified in practice unless you're some complete freak.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:39 am to ShortyRob
We didn't hit. We had one good game and we pressed too much on the basepath
I don't understand running on contact there, but it's like the third time we did it
I don't understand running on contact there, but it's like the third time we did it
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:43 am to shutterspeed
It has been an experience to watch simpletons judge his coaching ability based on outcomes of individual plays.
I do wonder how some of the people on this board are able to walk down the street without tripping over their own feet.
I do wonder how some of the people on this board are able to walk down the street without tripping over their own feet.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:47 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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Faedo
Speaking of, can anyone remember a player being named MVP and not even playing in the Championship Series?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:48 am to shutterspeed
Oh frick...... 
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:48 am to tLSU
He is the Les Miles of college baseball. Great person, great recruiter, not great coach. Wins mostly on talent.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:14 am to Mikey P
And this is exhibit A of cluelessness. LSU doesn't have any more talent than any of the other programs there, or in the SEC for that matter. We have a total of 3 players between the first and second team all SEC rosters. We certainly don't have, ever, the pitching depth that many others do.
He's done well with what we have. The guy has a .830+ winning percentage in the SEC tourney. Our fans are notorious for looking at the outcome of a play which necessarily involves risk and assuming a negative outcome = poor coaching. I understand it, because it's a natural feeling, but that doesn't make it true.
Like I said, listening to someone critique a college coach based upon outcomes relative to what he does with his son's travel ball league or his experience from high school baseball in the 90s (before that injury that kept him out of the MLB) is comical.... As are the pure hindsight statements such as "durrrr Hess should have been the closer all year stupid Mainieri durrr," as if he was lights out and sitting on the bench.
He's done well with what we have. The guy has a .830+ winning percentage in the SEC tourney. Our fans are notorious for looking at the outcome of a play which necessarily involves risk and assuming a negative outcome = poor coaching. I understand it, because it's a natural feeling, but that doesn't make it true.
Like I said, listening to someone critique a college coach based upon outcomes relative to what he does with his son's travel ball league or his experience from high school baseball in the 90s (before that injury that kept him out of the MLB) is comical.... As are the pure hindsight statements such as "durrrr Hess should have been the closer all year stupid Mainieri durrr," as if he was lights out and sitting on the bench.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 7:27 am
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