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re: Would you feel differently If it was Your Son that Got Beat Up by LSU Football

Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:29 pm to
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.people on here have been following these kids since they were juniors in high school. It would've been mentioned.



so some people reading articles in the paper or online can define the character of an individual?


good god.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:30 pm to
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so some people reading articles in the paper or online can define the character of an individual?


it goes alot further then reading articles. you need to visit the recruiting board more often
Posted by kuntrykingpin318
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:32 pm to
the police interview said none of the kidds had any priors
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:32 pm to
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so some people reading articles in the paper or online can define the character of an individual?

good god.


What he is probably saying is if there were high profile behavioral problems and issues with law enforcement, people that follow recruiting would know about it.

This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 12:32 pm
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:32 pm to
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most of those people usually have a history of violence...none of these kids do.


One of the "victims" definitely has a history of getting in fights

Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:34 pm to
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it goes alot further then reading articles. you need to visit the recruiting board more often



unless they are hanging out with these fine young men on LSU's team during their formative years...I put little stock in any of it.

I find your need to criticize others about potential speculation, while wielding similar speculation yourself, highly amusing.

I will be interested to see your responses in the coming weeks as this story further develops....I imagine it too will provide even more entertainment.

have a great day.

Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:35 pm to
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saying is if there were high profile behavioral problems and issues with law enforcement,


all events are not high profile, all events are not "caught".

Most LEO's will tell you it is rarely the first time someone acts, that they are caught.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:37 pm to
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unless they are hanging out with these fine young men on LSU's team during their formative years...I put little stock in any of it.

I find your need to criticize others about potential speculation, while wielding similar speculation yourself, highly amusing.

I will be interested to see your responses in the coming weeks as this story further develops....I imagine it too will provide even more entertainment.

have a great day.


They had no priors, Bengal. That's fairly unusual for those with a "history of violence"--especially young men in the South.

Why do you want them to be guilty of the worst possible offense that this incident can support?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:38 pm to
if any of the players had a history of violence it would have been well discussed and documented. thats not speculation
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 12:39 pm
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:38 pm to
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Most LEO's will tell you it is rarely the first time someone acts, that they are caught.


Most bar fights I witnessed in the past did not end with intervention from law enforcement.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:39 pm to
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I would have whipped my son's arse worse than Jordan Jefferson did for getting behind the wheel at 1:45 a.m. after spending all night at the bar.
POW!
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Why do you want them to be guilty


I don't.

I actually wished for the sake of the team this never happened.

But to make wild speculation either way is just wrong. That's either speculation AGAINST them, or IN FAVOR of them.

it doesn't help anyone or anything.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:43 pm to
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But to make wild speculation either way is just wrong. That's either speculation AGAINST them, or IN FAVOR of them.

it doesn't help anyone or anything.


Well how's this. As a fan of LSU football, and a decent human being, I hope for the best for the players involved. If they let their emotions get the best of them and ended up crossing some line, I hope they are dealt with as leniently as any first offender would be. If this is a big misunderstanding, I hope it goes the frick away.

Will you say the same?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:45 pm to
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As a fan of LSU football, and a decent human being, I hope for the best for the players involved and those who had to seek treatment at the hospital. If they let their emotions get the best of them and ended up crossing some line, I hope they are dealt with as leniently as any first offender would be, within the letter of the law and defference to those who may have been wronged. If this is a big misunderstanding, I hope it goes the frick away.



I'll agree to that, how about you? i mean as a decent human being you should care for ALL parties involved..since the others were likely students of LSU as well.
Posted by RealityTiger
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:50 pm to
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If this is a big misunderstanding

That is hinged on how much $$$$ is thrown the accuser's way.
Posted by XbengalTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:51 pm to
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depends on if my son was being a jackass and provoked it. (allegedly?)
Exactly. The only reason the victims are the "victims" at this point is because they lost the fight and were treated for minor injuries. If the marine had beat-up the LSU football players, would the players have been the victims?

We don't know what actions/words the "victims" engaged in that provoked the fight. Participants in a fight are rarely completely innocent. Blame can usually be assigned to all parties involved. Just because you lose the fight doesn't make you a victim and just because you win a fight doesn't make you a criminal.
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 12:52 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:52 pm to
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i least someone gets it. some people have no damn loyalty
they aren't as good of fans as us choctaw.

its known i have been critical of jj and les in the past but i wont throw them under the bus for off the field actions.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:53 pm to
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I'll agree to that, how about you? i mean as a decent human being you should care for ALL parties involved..since the others were likely students of LSU as well.


Last time I checked, they're alive. Their futures aren't in danger, they sustained no debilitating injuries, and they lawyered up the moment their hangovers wore off. They got beaten the frick up on a Friday morning outside of a shitty college bar. Forgive me for not sending up 12 Hail Marys.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:53 pm to
Somebody's son is about to get beat up by 85,000 people
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:54 pm to
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do honestly believe they just pulled kids out of a car for merely honking their horn?
i believe the instigators were driving these new cars that didn't have locks.
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