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re: would lsu make this bold move wednesday

Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:23 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:23 am to
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which would mean a real cakewalk Super Regional.


no it doesn't

Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:24 am to
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#1 national seed

Overrated. The last #1 seed to win it all was Miami in 1999.

All I want is a top 8 seed and I think we all but wrapped that up already.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:27 am to
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not true, its based on geography


Like top seed Miami last year getting paired with the Ann Arbor regional? Yes, there are some geographical leanings for sure, but the top seed is usually not going to be paired with an RPI 9/10 type of team.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:27 am to
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All I want is a top 8 seed and I think we wrapped that up already.


That looks better

Seriously though, why not pitch Ross? What if for some freak reason we lose the first two games of the SECT? Then Austin hasn't pitched in two weeks...definitely a bad scenario there.

This post was edited on 5/18/09 at 11:30 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:30 am to
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Overrated. The last #1 seed to win it all was Miami in 1999.

All I want is a top 8 seed and I think we all but wrapped that up already.


ok, so another way to look at it. LSU starts Ross and we lose game 1. Then who knows what happens in game 2 (that's baseball) and we happen to go 0-2 in the SECT while Ole Miss and Florida have strong showings.

Does LSU still have a national top 8 seed? Probably better than 50% chance, but I'd rather not find out the hard way.

Ranaudo and Coleman need to pitch in the SECT. Period.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:33 am to
They both could pitch thursday, Mainieri mentioned it as a possibility.

Another way to look at it is Ross is going to have to pitch in some big games down the stretch anyway, might as well get used to it. I'd rather not risk Ranaudo pitching on less rest than usual, he doesn't pitch well in those situations.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:35 am to
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Then who knows what happens in game 2 (that's baseball) and we happen to go 0-2 in the SECT while Ole Miss and Florida have strong showings.


I said this yesterday. That's the only scenario that can possibly take a top 8 seed from us.

If Ross loses game one, then we go with Coleman. He's not likely to have back-to-back bad games.

The SEC tourney is not the time to overextend any pitcher unless you're trying to get into a regional.

This post was edited on 5/18/09 at 11:39 am
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:38 am to
I think a Ross, Bradshaw (who only threw 30 pitches Saturday), and Ott scenario should be plenty good enough if we swing the bats like we're capable of.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:46 am to
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Another way to look at it is Ross is going to have to pitch in some big games down the stretch anyway, might as well get used to it.


True. I guess I will hope for Ole Miss and Florida both to implode in the process. Then LSU can tinker more in the SECT.

UGA went 0-2 last year at the SECT and still got a national #8 seeding. Of course, they and LSU were the only SEC contenders for national seeds.

Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
1074 posts
Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:49 am to
I like starting someone other than Coleman or ranaudo however if you start Coleman or ranaudo tomorrow and keep them on a pitch count they could come back sunday if we get there
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:51 am to
IMO, I think you start your #1 guy for the first game no matter who the opponent is. The most important thing is to win the first two games, so you don't have to go to the losers brakcet early.

Skip did this every year in postseason, and we all know about his 5 championships in 10 years.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:54 am to
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I like starting someone other than Coleman or ranaudo however if you start Coleman or ranaudo tomorrow and keep them on a pitch count they could come back sunday if we get there


if LSU gets to Sunday in the SECT, then all bets would be off, imo. It'd be nice to win, but probably some guys who need a little more seasoning would see the field at several positions.

As for pitching, there would only be 4 days rest before the Regionals start on the following Friday.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20481 posts
Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:55 am to
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Skip did this every year in postseason, and we all know about his 5 championships in 10 years.


Not true. One year that jumps out at me is 1993 (I think?) when Skip started some rag-arm in game 1 of the Regional and we were smoked by Kent State.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:57 am to
It was necessary for us to win the SECT last year, I think we can all agree we have bigger goals this year. With our lack of depth on the mound, making the SECT championship game might be more of a negative rather than a positive.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:58 am to
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Skip did this every year in postseason, and we all know about his 5 championships in 10 years

skip didn't pitch his #1 in the first game of regionals his last few years
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 11:59 am to
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I guess I will hope for Ole Miss and Florida both to implode in the process.


I can see Florida imploding, but Bianco has had pretty good SEC tourney success as of late. I think OM needs Bittle to make it to the championship game. If Bittle can't pitch, then I don't think they make it that far. And I know Irwin has pitched pretty good for them as of late, but he's still not close as the level of Bittle.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/18/09 at 12:00 pm to
Bittle, Irwin, Pomeranz is a stout 1-2-3.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 5/18/09 at 12:06 pm to
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Skip did this every year in postseason, and we all know about his 5 championships in 10 years.

Skip didn't place much emphasis on winning the SEC tourney. He wanted to play enough games to get all his pitchers some work. But he didn't start any starter more than once. I think Skip only won 3 tourneys, not counting those wacky divisional tourneys.

In the regionals, he didn't start his ace or his #2 guy. Ben Saxon started the 2000 regional over Brian Tallet and Hunter Gomez. Prior to that, we had the old 6 team format where he did the same thing. It made no sense throwing your ace against the 6 seed.

Skip knows baseball.
Posted by Herb
Amite LA
Member since Dec 2003
6528 posts
Posted on 5/18/09 at 12:46 pm to
Apparently Ross is going to pitch, if we are going to win the tournment. If he is our weakest pitcher, of the three, why not start him against the weakest opponent, Vanderbilt? Doesn't that improve his chance of winning?
Posted by TheLittleAristotle
On my couch absorbing MFP 3:16
Member since Feb 2006
3908 posts
Posted on 5/18/09 at 12:49 pm to
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if we lose we could still win two with ranaudo and coleman.then we could pitch bradshaw in the 4th game.i like the idea but ive got some guts.i coached a little 11-15 year old team and thats how i would teach them.my baby brother played on that team and hated me but til this day he would say he appeciated what i did for that team.


this is awesome, fwiw imho
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