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Posted on 11/13/09 at 5:38 am to
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 5:38 am to
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LSU fans would be the same if they were in the Big 12

Florida fans would be the same if they were in the ACC.

the SEC hasn't created this southern football culture, the fans have.


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The SEC is tampering with our favorite pastime, and if it persists and nothing is done about it, fans will eventually lose interest and spend their money elsewhere.

And how much time, energy, money, do fans spend on it?

Wayyyyy too much of all for some money grubbing suits to go toying with it.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:03 am to
supporting sunshine laws in Alabama is a good thing. We need...and deserve...the oversight.
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
3559 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:13 am to
I give money and time to LSU,TAF.Why bother if the officials won't give LSU a fair call.This is no longer about 1 call or even 1 game.Perhaps I should just send my money to Bama,or the SEC.I could forget about even going to games and just know that Bama is going to win.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:19 am to
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But to answer your question, a few years ago anyone who suggested the NBA had illegal officiating was a nut. If you can admit that insider trading takes place on Wall St., you can see how easy it is to corrupt $500 a game officials. There are millions at stake, these guys make pennies. As we have seen in the past, there are schools in the SEC who do not allow rules and money to become an obstacle to success. We all know who those schools are, it is part of their culture.


Glad to see some of you are finally getting it.

Reality is a good place to live in.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:22 am to
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Too much money at stake and they want to get 2 BCS bids. The SEC has become addicted to that extra payout and is manipulating outcomes to ensure they don't miss out.


Woo hoo! My faith in mankind is slowly being restored today.

I knew not everyone was stupid.

People are finally getting it! Yay!
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10225 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:34 am to
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I have to admit that it wouldn't surprise me in this state. Our judges and lawyers are the most dishonest people in the entire state and they all have connections to Alabama and Auburn. Half of the elected officials in Birmingham are on their way to prison. It would be par for the course if we found out the SEC office was corrupt.


I would probably be more surprised if they didnt find something. Not cracking on Alabama politics Louisiana is just as bad. I wouldnt want the SEC office here either. It needs to be in Anchorage.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24958 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:37 am to
I'll take it one step further.

How many BCS games does CBS have?

Wouldn't it be great for ratings and the SEC's chances of placing 2 teams in the BCS, if there was a pseudo-BCS championship game with #1 vs. #2 in Atlanta?

Do you really realize how much money we're talking about? Give one of those teams a loss and have that team beat the other undefeated team. Now where do we stand?

To me, the use of replay in this last game was the thing that put these thoughts in the forefront of my mind.
Posted by CHINATIGER
Prairieville, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2007
8 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:39 am to
Many years ago, when Georgia Tech was a member of the SEC, Alabama in particular accused them of cheating via the officials. If we were talking about only one bad call in a game this would be one thing, but now we have several games where the outcome could have, may have been affected. As far as the LSU game it was not only one call, the "interception" call is obviously a bad call but all of the other calls that should have gone against Bama such as the obvious block in the back on the Jones 74 yard touchdown and the multiple face mask not called and the spearing of our quarterback come to mind.

The league should be absolutely ashamed of what is going on and something has to be done or our credibility as top league will suffer. Many may not want to admit it but there is something very wrong in the SEC right now!!!
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:40 am to
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I'll take it one step further.

How many BCS games does CBS have?

Wouldn't it be great for ratings and the SEC's chances of placing 2 teams in the BCS, if there was a pseudo-BCS championship game with #1 vs. #2 in Atlanta?

Do you really realize how much money we're talking about? Give one of those teams a loss and have that team beat the other undefeated team. Now where do we stand?

To me, the use of replay in this last game was the thing that put these thoughts in the forefront of my mind.


Another one. Welcome to reality.

It is beautiful here. I hope you enjoy your stay.
Posted by Peachtree Tiger
Member since Jan 2004
3232 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:26 am to
I don't think it is a conspriacy, but there is an inate favortism to get an undefeated team into the BCSCG. There are also a hand full of biased refs on the feild. This crap has got to stop.

The refs should be treated just like eveybody else. You f-up at your job, you get fired. A simple solution really.
Posted by Foot
Member since Jan 2005
2330 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:30 am to
I guess you are a big Richard Nixon supporter too.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:36 am to
you are right and the longer the SEC office is ACTING LIKE it's covering something up, the longer the cloud of suspicion hangs over their head. slive needs to do something to put this to rest, not us, the fans. its his damn responsibilty. as long as he sits on his arse, many will think he's settin' up game results.
Posted by juanoLSU
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
540 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:37 am to
I rather no be part of a corrupt organization... Integrity above all. Plus, SECOND refs were not officiating the 2007 NCG
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2038 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:47 am to
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.I could forget about even going to games and just know that Bama is going to win


And this sentiment will gain steam if nothing is done.

Eventually people will spend their saturdays golfing, hunting, fishing, etc instead of spending their hard earned $$$ supporting their team.

At that point, the SEC will have successfully slaughtered their cash cow.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18290 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:18 am to
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God bless the SEC


God doesn't bless corrupt cheaters.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:20 am to
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I don't think it is a conspriacy, but there is an inate favortism to get an undefeated team into the BCSCG. There are also a hand full of biased refs on the feild.


You sort of contradicted yourself there.

No discrespect, of course.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:20 am to
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I guess you are a big Richard Nixon supporter too.

When did I ever say that we should push this aside? I didn't. Reading comprehension, guy. I said that I hope there isn't something fishy going on.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:29 am to
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I said that I hope there isn't something fishy going on.


Hypothetical for you, which can also serve as an analogy:

Let's say you suspect that your wife is cheating on you. All the signs are there, you just need some "proof". You hire a PI, and he comes back to you in within a week with VIDEO EVIDENCE of another man penetrating every orifice she has.

Do you deny the video evidence, and tell the investigator you hope he is wrong?

Just curious.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:33 am to
No, but that's completely different. If you showed me more proof than a few really bad calls, which happens all the time, then I would not be saying this.

All we have now is the calls. No other proof whatsoever. Find something more concrete and I'll be more cautious. Until then, I hope there is nothing wrong.

BTW, with your hypothetical. This refgate scenario is more similar to the beginning where you had no proof, you were just suspecting she was cheating.

Let me ask you this: If you suspected your wife was cheating, would you be hopeful that she wasn't? Or would you hope that she gets punished without further proof? That's a much more sound analogy.
Posted by Foot
Member since Jan 2005
2330 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 9:40 am to
Let me ask you this: If you suspected your wife was cheating, would you be hopeful that she wasn't? Or would you hope that she gets punished without further proof? That's a much more sound analogy.
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that's why rigourous third party investigations must be done.

Or is this one of those, if it's true I don't ever want to know about it, things for you?
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