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re: Women's Hoops: LSU def. #14 A&M 80-78
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:42 pm to TigerBait55
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:42 pm to TigerBait55
This is a well-coached team. Coach Nikki is doing work.
Of course, Wade talks a big game and beats teams with losing records, so "he's the greatest basketball coach LSU has had."
Of course, Wade talks a big game and beats teams with losing records, so "he's the greatest basketball coach LSU has had."
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:54 pm to chinhoyang
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This is a well-coached team. Coach Nikki is doing work.
Nikki can coach and always could, that's not the problem. She has not recruited worth a spit and it wasn't like she took over a program that hadn't been able to in very recent history. That's on her.
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Of course, Wade talks a big game and beats teams with losing records, so "he's the greatest basketball coach LSU has had."
A&M, Michigan, Arkansas, Houston. Time will settle all this Chin. Let's talk in a couple of years. Hey, maybe you'll be right.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:54 pm to chinhoyang
Nikki should take points from Wade how to recruit, in year one he comes in and brings in a top 10 class after two disasterous seasons in a row. Better recruiting class than any class Nikki has ever brought in
Nikki can coach but she needs to be held accountable for the failures on the recruiting trail
Nikki can coach but she needs to be held accountable for the failures on the recruiting trail
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:05 pm to lsualum96
How many Top 25 wins that is for this team?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:17 pm to Tigerbait357
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Nikki should take points from Wade how to recruit, in year one he comes in and brings in a top 10 class after two disasterous seasons in a row. Better recruiting class than any class Nikki has ever brought in
I hear ya, but comparing women’s basketball recruiting to men’s basketball recruiting?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:07 pm to TigerBait55
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:40 pm to TigerBait55
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I hear ya, but comparing women’s basketball recruiting to men’s basketball recruiting?
I don't think that's an unreasonable comparison if you consider that it's all relative. How did they recruit relative to their peers and also in relation to the relative status of each program they took over.
Wade took over a program that had hit rock bottom and had very little interest locally or nationally or expectation of success in recruiting and just landed a top 3 class.
Versus Nikki who took over a program just a couple of years removed from going to 5 straight Final Fours and had a very reasonable expectation of being able to land good recruiting classes and has not come close to meeting that standard.
In that context I see no issue with the comparison.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:00 pm to Nissanmaxima
4 straight
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:08 pm to Tigerbait357
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actually very beatable
Muh road game.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:30 pm to TigerBait55
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I hear ya, but comparing women’s basketball recruiting to men’s basketball recruiting?
Its different for sure but its not up to debate that the recruiting is not at a reasonable standard at this point. It needs to be better.
So honest question, what happens if the 2019 class is beyond subpar with no top players and we allow LA's top prospects to leave the state again. We are back at square one and its like a repeated cycle.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:41 pm to TigerBait55
They still pay Nikki too much
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:40 am to KennabraTiger
So, who cares what they pay her? 
All that matters is winning, period.
All that matters is winning, period.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 12:41 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:45 am to lsualum96
I definitely don't mind paying someone a lot of money to win and put up top notch results. She definitely has this SEC season, but for the most part I understand the frustration based off Nikki's overall career here. Which is a fair reason for criticism. Its not been bad at all but its not been exactly fantastic. Its been a bit in the middle.
I want Nikki here but I do want better results on the recruiting trail. All of Us as fans of this program are all in agreement with that. hopefully the demoss effect will work well for the 2019 class
I want Nikki here but I do want better results on the recruiting trail. All of Us as fans of this program are all in agreement with that. hopefully the demoss effect will work well for the 2019 class
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:57 am to Tigerbait357
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Its different for sure but its not up to debate that the recruiting is not at a reasonable standard at this point. It needs to be better.
As I said, I hear you, but comparing recruiting in men’s basketball to recruiting in women’s basketball is a stretch.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:00 am to Tiger Ugly
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Versus Nikki who took over a program just a couple of years removed from going to 5 straight Final Fours and had a very reasonable expectation of being able to land good recruiting classes and has not come close to meeting that standard.
Can’t just forget the Van Chancellor era. No one argues that Nikki has been super subpar in recruiting, but the budget is not the same and strategy of getting recruits is not the same. Thus, why I feel it is a stretch.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 6:50 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:17 am to TigerBait55
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Can’t just forget the Van Chancellor era. No one argues that Nikki has been super subpar in recruiting, but the budget is not the same and strategy of getting recruits is not the same. Thus, why I feel it is a stretch.
The budget wasn't great when Pokie was recruiting lights out either, it was no comparison to men's then either. But that don't mean you can't compare... you can compare how each does relative to their peers. To me that's fair and reasonable and you can even reach a logical conclusion from doing that...one is did well the first year, one has not in 5 years.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:14 am to TigerBait55
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Can’t just forget the Van Chancellor era. No one argues that Nikki has been super subpar in recruiting, but the budget is not the same and strategy of getting recruits is not the same. Thus, why I feel it is a stretch.
bullshite, Nikki is working with a way better budget than what pokey did. LSU invests more in WBB today than they did a decade back. LSU is actually committed to WBB believe it or not.
Van actually recruited pretty well. Issue was he couldn't mold that talent and develop the product. I think its one of the main reasons Nikki did so well to open up here. When she has the talent and pieces, she can mold an excellent team.
Budget point is a bad one, we have other sports here, women that work with way less money but are able to haul in top talent.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:31 am to Tigerbait357
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bullshite, Nikki is working with a way better budget than what pokey did.
There has been a $270,000 increase in the recruiting budget from Pokey's first year to 2016, which is split between 11 Women's Varsity Sports teams. In comparison, the men's budget has increased about $770,000 by the 8 varsity sport teams. If you do not believe me, check it yourself and relax EADA Link.
So I'd love to see where that is "bullshite".
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:36 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:40 am to TigerBait55
I am not tryin to be an a-hole I promise
Still money isn't a major issue for recruiting for her. No question men have way better resources and more money to work with.
Van and Pokey recruited well and both had top 15-20 classes all the time.
Still why is gymnastics, softball, womens tennis and hell as of late Womens Beach Volleyball able to attract top talent across the country but the WBB can't. Either way it doesn't explain why the states top prospects constantly leave the state. I know we can't pick up everyone we want but still
Still money isn't a major issue for recruiting for her. No question men have way better resources and more money to work with.
Van and Pokey recruited well and both had top 15-20 classes all the time.
Still why is gymnastics, softball, womens tennis and hell as of late Womens Beach Volleyball able to attract top talent across the country but the WBB can't. Either way it doesn't explain why the states top prospects constantly leave the state. I know we can't pick up everyone we want but still
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:43 am to Tigerbait357
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I am not tryin to be an a-hole I promise
I know 357. I am just glad to have these conversations with someone who cares just like I do!
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