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re: WKU Game Rewatch Observations

Posted on 11/17/11 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 2:34 pm to
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Landry had a great play coming back to the ball and making a nice catch when Jefferson scrambled.


Oh you mean this play...

"Jefferson scrambles to his right and has to throw the ball away........... it's caught!!!"

Jim Hawthorne
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Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48709 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

You asked what should have Jefferson done, he throws the deep ball over Randle's head and Les Miles catches the ball on the sidelines


He should have checked out of the play before the snap. The safety never moved into the box.
Posted by Benchwarmer
Member since Feb 2004
4963 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

I just can't agree with this. I didn't watch it again like you, but I'm not going to give him an outstanding grade ever


FIFY

If you would have watched the replay in real time he is going down at 3 seconds. As CLM said that safety is not on the qb.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4816 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:27 pm to
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he held the ball for 5 seconds in his own endzone
not even close
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21848 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:28 pm to
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If you would have watched the replay in real time he is going down at 3 seconds.


Ok, 3 seconds, whatever...still plenty of time to know you can't throw the ball to your only option on the play, so you better do something besides get tackled in the end zone.

quote:

As CLM said that safety is not on the qb.


Right, so you think Les is going to come out and throw JJ under the bus? Yea, the play call sucked, but a senior QB needs to know he can't hold on to the ball in the endzone. He never ever sits in the pocket any other time, so why then?
Posted by BayouBndt
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2007
3168 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

3. Jordan Jefferson. Watch it again and he played lights out. he threw the ball incredibly well. he attempted quite a few long passes in this one that weren't complete, but they were all on target and he gave Randle a chance to go up and get them. Randle just didn't get them. He also scrambled well and took care of the ball. Had another long pass that should have been caught by Shepard. Jefferson looked outstanding.


His passes were still alittle off. Either behind him (Clement catch should have been a TD but he had to adjust to an underthrown ball) Or just to far (RS10's diving attempt. It would have been a great catch if he caught it) To say he was lights out is a huge stretch!!
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:30 pm to
Ford also picked up the blitz well and stepped up in pass blocking as well. A skill that many on here say that he has been less than adequate.
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:30 pm to
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1. Francois--could not cover the TE at all. Same thing all season. his one responsibility is to cover running backs and TEs on passes and he never makes plays.
I don't like to negative about a tiger but I don't see when he's played really well. He's never been a big playmaker. In his career, how many INTs, FFs, Sacks, does he have against decent competition?

Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:42 pm to
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the uproar wasn't about him playing poorly, it was about Jefferson starting and then playing every meaningful snap while the guy who started and led us to a 9-0 record sat on the bench until the fourth quarter. I thought Jefferson played pretty well so I'm not saying Lee should have played all those snaps, but that's what the uproar was about


Oh. He Mad
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63637 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:50 pm to
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As CLM said that safety is not on the qb.


CLM also said that Jarret Lee was not suspended.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52837 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:04 pm to
My Observations:


1) LSU won its 10th game without any losses this season.

2) LSU remained #1 in the BCS

3) YAYYYYY!!!!!!!!



Posted by JTacoma03
Baton Rouge/San Francisco
Member since Sep 2009
384 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:08 pm to
I watched it last night too Ryno and noticed similar things.

I agree with all of your "good" statements actually. I think we finally got a chance to see JJ's improvement from last year to this year. While I still don't think he's an elite level NCAA QB, he has improved his passing skillset. The biggest glaring deficiency that I saw was that slant pass to Randle, his windup still takes long enough that the defender could wrap RR up and keep him out of the endzone. Overall though, JJ had a great game, glad he showed that he can operate both dimensions of the offense if needed - that gives Arky and UGA more to think about.

Also note that upon the re-watch JLee ran the no-huddle really well in the 4th Q. Solid QB play by both #9 and #12 - Miles knows what he's doing in getting this team ready for our final 3 games (Arky, SEC-CG, BCSNC).


As to the bad:

Shepard has been...I hate to say it 'cuz I really like him (his swagger, his loyalty, his dedication to the team)...a bit of a letdown this year. He's got playmaking ability but he doesn't give himself the chance to shine because he keeps dropping passes. Hopefully he can clean this up, because if he can re-establish himself then it's going to be Saints-Lite in the superdome (meaning too many targets to cover).

I wouldn't put too much stock into SM99's performance, let him recharge a bit...it was WKU.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:08 pm to
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3. Jordan Jefferson. Watch it again and he played lights out. he threw the ball incredibly well. he attempted quite a few long passes in this one that weren't complete, but they were all on target and he gave Randle a chance to go up and get them. Randle just didn't get them. He also scrambled well and took care of the ball. Had another long pass that should have been caught by Shepard. Jefferson looked outstanding.
I agree. Not sure what all the uproar was about.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20462 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

the uproar wasn't about him playing poorly, it was about Jefferson starting and then playing every meaningful snap while the guy who started and led us to a 9-0 record sat on the bench until the fourth quarter. I thought Jefferson played pretty well so I'm not saying Lee should have played all those snaps, but that's what the uproar was about


We should all love Lee, and yeah it sucks for him, I feel bad for him. But we don't really lose anything with Jefferson playing more, we gain a mobile QB that can also make plays with his legs. Jefferson's not the easiest guy to root for as an individual, but if the coaches think he's the better option, frick it...I just wanna see us win.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5557 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:16 pm to
Main problem is the defense needs to learn how to cover back going out for a pass. Its killed us all year and Arkansas is taking note. Ask Trent Richardson. Hell ask Western Kentucky, backs out the back field off of a play action have eaten us alive all year.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20462 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

backs out the back field off of a play action have eaten us alive all year.


Eaten us all the way to 11 pts/game.
Posted by HoustonRes
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
59 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Has anyone heard why Wing didn't punt on the free kick after the safety? You rarely ever see the kicker after a safety.


I wondered this as well. Asked a few of the guys sitting around me at the game, but they were too drunk to remember what a free kick was...

Seems like Wing would be perfect for a free kick?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131610 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

We should all love Lee, and yeah it sucks for him, I feel bad for him. But we don't really lose anything with Jefferson
Jesus H Christ folks!
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