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re: Will Wade - No "Offer" Possible?

Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:14 pm to
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To me, unless there's a paper trail it isn't shite but I guess that isn't true.

I fully agree with that. As far as I'm concerned, unless money changed hands, "the offer" could have been anything.

Has anything actually come out providing any evidence of what specifically he meant?

If the answer is no, this is nothing. If yes, a potential problem but not likely as too many others will be inplicated for anything too severe.

Duke is playing a kid whose handler was on wiretaps talking specifics. Arizona did the same.

If Wade never elaborated and no evidence says otherwise then it's all bullshite.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:17 pm to
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You just need to avoid these threads for your own good.

LSU released it's statement saying that discussing it is a violation. That's not my opinion.
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1791 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:19 pm to
Discussion a illegal offer is a violation, saying the word “offer” violation isn’t and that is the situation we have now at LSU... everybody is assuming shyt
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:20 pm to
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biggdogg


This guy gets it.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
99060 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:21 pm to
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Discussion a illegal offer is a violation

Much better description than what I said. Thank you.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
42310 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:24 pm to
That’s my point. And even if he did discuss making an offer, if no offer was actually given, this situation has been blown waaaay out of proportion.

LSU has just handled this whole thing so poorly.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51043 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:27 pm to
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saying the word “offer” violation isn’t and that is the situation we have now at LSU...


THANK YOU

In the Yahoo reports the word offer was used in quotes

The “bigger than rookie min & someone wanting more of the pie” was reported that he said it, he was not directly quoted

Therefore anything other than the word offer is hearsay & scholarships get offered all the time
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:29 pm to
Our Admin <<<<< AU Admin.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9916 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:31 pm to
Maybe wade was just talking crap and it was pure puffery and trying to make himself look important
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:33 pm to
I spoke to someone who has known Smart's family for years. She told me that the mom does not know of any offer and what was said is false. She also said that Boosie takes good care of his family so doesn't know why they would need anything. I also work with his cousin that said its false and she doesn't like what the school is doing to their family. She didn't want him to go to LSU but he wanted to stay home and rep his state she said.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
42310 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:34 pm to
Frankly, the press has had to walk back so many gotcha” stories recently, I don’t believe anything until I have full quotes and context.
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
6031 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:36 pm to
Could not agree more. These so-called administrators are idiots.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:38 pm to
Wade said he made a strong offer. He said he knows the offer wasn't explained correctly to the mother. He said it was weighted too heavily towards the mother and the kid. He said the other person didn't get a big enough piece of the pie.

This would lead a person to infer that the offer was made to a middle man of some type and the middle man didn't like the offer and thus may have never presented it to the mother and kid.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
99060 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:39 pm to
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the press has had to walk back so many gotcha” stories recently, I don’t believe anything until I have full quotes and context.

This is why I think Wade is ok for now. If there isn't anything else that's any worse than what has been reported so far, I'm still hopeful he can come back and that they want him back. IMO he would have already been fired if they didn't want this thing to work.
Posted by Boudreaux in SF
silicon valley
Member since May 2005
530 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:41 pm to
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But how severe a violation? If an offer was discussed but no offer was made, how bad of a violation is it?




Only problem with that is Coach discusses making the offer in the taped conversation, so trying to parse no offer made is ridiculous and making the offer is the "potential" violation.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
42310 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:43 pm to
We don’t know that. We don’t have the full transcripts of the call or know the context. Even if he did blatantly say he made and offer, if he never actually made an offer to a player or players agent then no offer was made.

Both are bad. One is much worse than the other.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:45 pm to
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Only problem with that is Coach discusses making the offer in the taped conversation

Could be a scholarship offer. Maybe he was full of shite.

The fact that he asked to be reinstated was something of a proclamation of innocence. I doubt he'd have done that given the career ramifications if he turned out to be lying.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
99060 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:48 pm to
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The fact that he asked to be reinstated was something of a proclamation of innocence. I doubt he'd have done that given the career ramifications if he turned out to be lying.

This is an interesting angle that I have thought of or seen anyone else mention. It could definitely hurt his career if he was allowed to coach because he asked and then it came out later that he really did commit recruiting violations.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51043 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Frankly, the press has had to walk back so many gotcha” stories recently, I don’t believe anything until I have full quotes and context.


If it were quoted it would be a different story

For LSU to act as they did is insane
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51043 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:03 pm to
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Wade said he made a strong offer. He said he knows the offer wasn't explained correctly to the mother. He said it was weighted too heavily towards the mother and the kid. He said the other person didn't get a big enough piece of the pie. This would lead a person to infer that the offer was made to a middle man of some type and the middle man didn't like the offer and thus may have never presented it to the mother and kid.


WRONG

it was REPORTED he said those things, people infer & report incorrectly to push a bias

The only thing that was QUOTED was “offer”

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