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re: Will Peter Parrish be our Taysom Hill?

Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:01 pm to
37 rushes, 196 yards, 2 TDs
3 receptions, 4 yards
3/7 42.9%, 64 yards, 1 Int
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I don’t think we need to install this package with a freshman QB
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:01 pm to
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And like 8 other positions.


Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:06 pm to
We will know next season at the soonest when we get to see him play
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:21 pm to
Few things:

1.) I'm not talking about a 2 QB system, I'm talking about 1 or 2 trick/gadget plays.

2.) We now have Joe Brady, who worked directly under Sean Payton. All Parrish would really need is 1-2 RPO play with different offensive alignments.

3.) I never said anything about him being exclusively used for offense. I mentioned ST as well.

This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Cajun Catfish
Member since May 2016
695 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:22 pm to
Parrish will RS this year but under the new rule will be able to play in 4 games in some capacity.
Brennan will get significant meaningful reps now as a true junior and as the pure passing QB directed by Brady.
Burrow is already the more running QB and will be asked to run a lot more this year now that Brennan is healthy and weighs in at 205-210lbs. Brennan will be brought in to stretch the field and throw the ball. Kinda like what happened when AL brought in Tua. Things all of a sudden will look really, really different and keep defenses off balance. Not necessarily a 2 QB system but something like it when we need it.
Brennan will then start for the following 2 years. And that’s barring any injuries to JB or Brennan could start this year.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:24 pm to
The real question is why?

Why would we want him running and RPO and not Burrow?

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2.) I never said anything about him being exclusively used for offense. I mentioned ST as well.


Again, if Taysom doesn’t do everything idk if he makes the roster to just run Read Options.

Being able to do a lot of different things is really great on a limited roster.

In college we probably have the players to fill out special teams without lining up our 3rd QB.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:36 pm to
Burrow speed doesn't scare any disciplined SEC defense. (Alabama, Florida, Miss State). And again, it also shows the opposing defense something they've never seen before. (We're talking about trick/gadget plays)

Real world Example: If you were taking a test and see a question that wasn't in the study guide, what are you going to do?

The fact is both Taysom and Parrish are on the roster so why not use them to the best of their abilities.

Here's my question:
Do you see any either Parrish or Taysom starting for their respective franchise/program in the future?

If the answer's no. What's there to lose.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:38 pm to
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2.) We now have Joe Brady, who worked directly under Sean Payton. All Parrish would really need is 1-2 RPO play with different offensive alignments.


Why though? The numbers I posted above show that the production clearly isn’t worth it.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:40 pm to
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What's there to lose.
Actual production and results from the players who are already talented enough to start at their positions?
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Peter Parrish will benefit from redshirting IMO. No sense in burning his redshirt this year


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Players will now be allowed to play in up to four games and still qualify for a redshirt season, maintaining four years of eligibility. In the past, playing just one game could cost a player an entire season of eligibility. Coaches say the change will provide needed roster depth, improve player development and avoid many of those damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situations where the choice becomes: Short-term need or long-term goals?


LINK

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marginally better runner than Burrow.


I find it amazing that for posters who want to poke their chest out as "analysts" or "scouts", they really don't understand the difference on the field of play in 4.5 vs 4.7-4.9.

Jacob Hester & Leonard Fournette are 2 All Time GREAT Tiger running backs yet both had different styles & physical gifts.

Fournette: 4.51 40 @ the NFL Combine

Hester: 4.62 40 @ the NFL Combine

The difference might not seem that great but when discussing the ability to separate from defenders, it means a great deal. In comparing Fournette & Hester, Fournette's 40 time shows why he was the bigger home run threat anytime he touched the ball. Both RBs ran with power but Fournette possessed another gear as to where he could take a 15-20 yard gain, 70-80 yards while Hester could not. That is the difference in speed when comparing Burrow & Parrish yet somehow some seem to think the difference in speed is only "marginal".
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:47 pm to
It’s amazing that you can make up Butrow’s 40 time as something in the 4.7-4.9 range and pretend you have credibility.

Sorry we aren’t putting all out faith in a reported camp 40.

The guys doesn’t play that much faster.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:59 pm to
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It’s amazing that you can make up Butrow’s 40 time as something in the 4.7-4.9 range and pretend you have credibility. 


Lol



LINK

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Burrow speed doesn't scare any disciplined SEC defense. (Alabama, Florida, Miss State). And again, it also shows the opposing defense something they've never seen before. (We're talking about trick/gadget plays)


1. Burrow is fast enough
2. We have to run a play they haven’t seen before do that to be true. they’ve seen a QB run an options

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Real world Example: If you were taking a test and see a question that wasn't in the study guide, what are you going to do?


Stick to what I know and try and answer it.

Most people who line up at WR get treated like a WR. Most players who line up as a QB get treated like a QB. Rarely does a backup come in to throw the ball.

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The fact is both Taysom and Parrish are on the roster so why not use them to the best of their abilities.


NFL rosters and NCAA rosters are different animals.

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Here's my question: Do you see any either Parrish or Taysom starting for their respective franchise/program in the future? If the answer's no. What's there to lose


The difference is the saints don’t have 15 guys who are 6’2” 220 and run a 4.44.

Taysom Hill wasn’t effective because he ran “trick plays” he mostly ran plays that work well when you’re big fast and strong.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:06 pm to
Has he run a 40 for anyone since high school? Made up numbers are made up.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Taysom Hill wasn’t effective because he ran “trick plays” he mostly ran plays that work well when you’re big fast and strong.


Based on the production posted above, “effective” likely isn’t the word you’re looking for
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:09 pm to
5.3 yards a carry in the NFL is pretty effective.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6753 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:17 pm to
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hes basically a RB who is our Wildcat QB


No the frick he isn't.
If you don't know something don't speak on it and be pos in the process.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22691 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Has he run a 40 for anyone? Made up numbers are made up.


You have no clue how NFL scouts operate. They are invited to college practices. They are on the sidelines during games. The information collected during these times are shared in the scouting community.

Scouts can also use game footage of a long run to project a player's 40 time. An example would be Burrow's long run against Georgia last year hence the difference in the high & low 40 times for Burrow from the link in previous post. Scouts already have a general idea what range a player will run in the 40 well before the NFL Combine. The Combine times just provide a definite number for scouts to go off of.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Have you lived in cave the past 20 years? College teams constantly did this when the wildcat became popular. Also, Bama spelled Tua with Hurts last season despite Tua being a playmaker with his legs himself.


How many teams with mobile QBs took out the risk of throwing the ball to play their RB in the Wildcat?

And the Tua/Hurts situation is completely different. Hurts was the backup QB coming in during blowouts. Not a running QB.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:31 pm to
You know who NFL scouts work for?

NFL teams

Not NFLDraftScout.com

There is also a difference between estimate a 40 time from a run in a football game and a 40 time.

Also you think NFL teams share information with each other? That’s fricking stupid.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 3:36 pm
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