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Will NIL end the the signing day flip?

Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3269 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:21 pm
For the bigger name prospects, I imagine a verbal commitment also comes with signing a NIL contract. Does that mean the end of verbal commitments flipping on signing day?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:23 pm to
Why would they sign a NIL deal before a LOI. Another place could come in with a better offer last minute
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:24 pm to
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I imagine a verbal commitment also comes with signing a NIL contract.


wrong. Why would Gordon Mckernan (or others) sign a written contract to pay an 18yo kid based on a verbal contract? Should not be getting paid until they sign an NLI.

didn't A&M learn this the hard way with Eric Dickerson/SMU?
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71689 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:26 pm to
Probably the opposite. School doesn't get their backup plan so they come up with a bigger bag to get the guy they really wanted.
Posted by CRW
Destrahan
Member since Aug 2016
1099 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:34 pm to
I`m of the opinion that you won`t see BK going after
money grabbers.He`s not going to play that game.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:36 pm to
No, could make it worse. Can't sign NIL deals until you're signed with a university. Bids go up in crunch time. Happened in last year's class. Lots of flips.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Geaux_Tigers_08
Member since Nov 2015
709 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:47 pm to
Happened with Jacoby Mathews last year. LSU had pen almost to paper, 8&4 came in with a ridiculous NIL offer at the last minute…it’ll happen
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13090 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:47 pm to
Kids cannot sign NIL deals until they are fully registered and attending classes.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Kids cannot sign NIL deals until they are fully registered and attending classes.


sure they can as the NIL deals are not tied to a player playing for a specific school. However, it would be bad business for a company/NIL entity to pay a player based on a verbal commitment.

i.e. per LHSAA rules, Arch Manning could sign an NIL deal with Nike tomorrow. Regardless if he goes to UT or somewhere else.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5314 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:57 pm to
Kids thinking they can leave after getting paid better think twice. Some rich people are connected.
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3269 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
I'm sure its illegal for one of the contract clauses to say:

"In exchange for X dollars, you will do the following:
- attend X university"

But could someone get creative and say:
"In exchange for X dollars, you will do the following:
- live in the city of X where company X is located"
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:09 pm to
will end a lot of things you used to like.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

I`m of the opinion that you won`t see BK going after
money grabbers. He`s not going to play that game.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19077 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

For the bigger name prospects, I imagine a verbal commitment also comes with signing a NIL contract.


For some reason I think I recall NIL cannot be executed before signing. I certainly could be wrong.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12381 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:54 pm to
No. It will increase them. Look what happened with the Pontchatoula DB last year. The bidding war went on to the last minute.
Posted by Ikneauxnuffin
da bayou
Member since Dec 2019
634 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:31 pm to
I think it ends getting big time prospects on the early December signing day.
Big fish will hold out for the big NIL deals until February.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

I`m of the opinion that you won`t see BK going after
money grabbers.He`s not going to play that game

Yep, I'm positive Jalen Brown turned down all the money from Miami to come to LSU because he "wants to be a Tigah" and really loves Baton Rouge and feels a deep connection to Brian Kelly.

There's no way we paid him, none
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:37 pm to
Additionally, it would be a level one recruiting violation. It’s amazing how many people don’t understand NIL.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

For some reason I think I recall NIL cannot be executed before signing. I certainly could be wrong.

Nico Iamaleava is already making 6 figures before he starts his senior year
quote:

On Friday, a five-star recruit in the Class of 2023 signed an agreement with a school’s NIL collective that could pay him more than $8 million by the end of his junior year of college, The Athletic has learned. He’ll be paid $350,000 almost immediately, followed by monthly payouts escalating to more than $2 million per year once he begins his college career, in exchange for making public appearances and taking part in social media promotions and other NIL activities “on behalf of (the collective) or a third party.”
Posted by MidLineVeer
Southwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
665 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:23 pm to
Nope, see the kid from ponchatoula last year. A&M will have like 5-8 commits and buy another class come signing day. You don’t have to be good or recruit well, you just have to be the highest bidder. How can you blame those kids? A degree is a degree, in the working world, no one gives a shite from where. Get what you can while you can.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 5:33 pm
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