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re: Will LSU Baseball have a star player next season?

Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:48 pm to
Just because you consider it an insult doesn’t mean that it is. The truth is he was a .300 who batted in the 7-hole. Actually he batted .275 in SEC play

Did he get hot against subpar arms late? Yes.

Did he struggled in SEC play against real arms? Yes.

Doesn’t mean he sucks by any means. Just means he hasn’t proven he’s a star yet. He has more to prove.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:50 pm to
No. Scouts still are not sold on Tanks being a 3B. Which is why he’s fallen
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
I never said Maineri got credit, you are making that part up. I simply named stars. As it pertains to this thread, even if Jay did get credit for Herring, I clearly say stars on next years team. Are you saying he’s returning? Because I haven’t seen that so please provide a link.

Further, we’ve seen Griffin be best as a reliever, so you are convinced he’ll be a star weekend starter at LSU if he returns? Interesting
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:56 pm to
Burro are you a fricking Tulane Fan because you can't be an LSU Fan .
A Burro is a Jackass!
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:11 pm to
There’s a reason he’s slid and now considered a back half of R1 guy. Some even have him early R2. It’s not because of the bat…
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:15 pm to
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he truth is he was a .300 who batted in the 7-hole.


Except you're lying. He hit .326, which is substantially higher than ".300" and he had PLENTY of starts in the 1-6 holes this season. Including 3 starts in the last 3 games of the season at the 2-hole. Stop lying.

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Actually he batted .275 in SEC play


He actually hit .301 against SEC teams this season, which I know why you're trying to leave off the SECT to make your argument look better, but .275 is still really solid in SEC play otherwise anyways, you're not helping yourself.

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Did he get hot against subpar arms late? Yes.





Discounting him against the most important games of the entire season is about one of the dumbest arguments I've seen. Dude was destroying this postseason across the SECT and regional. You're a complete liar saying it only came against "subpar arms. Yeah, because you know the SEC was just loaded with "subpar arms" and UNC as well. In the most important game of the entire season he stepped up and went 2/4 with a home run and walk against UGA to likely secure a spot in a regional. In an elimination game against UNC he went 3/5 with 2 RBI to help us win that game. Please stop with the nonsense.

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Did he struggled in SEC play against real arms? Yes.



Literally every player at some point struggles or goes through some kind of slump. The dude hit .386 in our postseason absolutely being a huge part of that run we had. FRESHMAN all-american. "but .300 hitter in 7-hole" herp derp

Again you call Duplantis a star here yet the guy who in his very first season eclipsed the BEST season Duplantis here as a freshman you are constantly putting down and acting like anyone saying he could be a star is wrong. You clearly are not looking for constructive conversation and have a pre-determined outlook based on a narrative you think Jay sucks or something.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:17 pm to
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No. Scouts still are not sold on Tanks being a 3B. Which is why he’s fallen



He hasnt fallen anywhere, he';s been seen as a mid-late 1st rounder the whole time. The only reason he HASNT fallen is because scouts saw he can play 3B this year well. He played 3B as well as anyone in the SEC this season, scouts dont see him anymore as only a 1b/DH/2b type, you're creating a narrative that no longer exists.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:21 pm to
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I never said Maineri got credit, you are making that part up. I simply named stars.


So why even mention all of them and then when someone names a pitcher like Herring you immediately dismiss that because you think Jay doesnt apparently coach/interact any pitchers ever. You realize how dumb this is? Every time someone makes a solid counterpoint you just go off the rails and dismiss it with some completely made up notion.

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As it pertains to this thread, even if Jay did get credit for Herring, I clearly say stars on next years team. Are you saying he’s returning?


Herring and Jones can return, nobody knows if they will or not because the draft hasnt happened yet and they have decisions to make, but safe to say either is star level considering what they've done here. Make light of Herring all you want as "just a reliever" but he threw over 50 innings in 21 appearances this past season which is a ton for "just a reliever" and was obviously elite.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:23 pm to
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There’s a reason he’s slid and now considered a back half of R1 guy. Some even have him early R2. It’s not because of the bat…



You are so far out of reality it's hilarious.

You literally think after Tanks had a great season defensively playing 3B he somehow dropped (Which he didnt, he was never considered like a top half first rounder previously) in the draft due to...the great defense he played?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:39 pm to
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300 hitter in the 7-hole?
.326, at least get your stats correct if you are going to be an a-hole. He also hit up and down the lineup throughout the season. He was a freshman and clutch throughout the season especially in the postseason
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:53 pm to
He was bad his first 2 SEC series going 2/18

the he went 25/81 with 9 BB in his last 8 SEC series.

And then obviously an awesome post season.


Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5492 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:58 pm to
28 H in 102 AB during the 30-game SEC schedule when teams are trying to win. Most production came in series against Mizzou, Ole Miss and Auburn. Those are just the facts.

He did heat up against subpar arms in Hoover when teams were throwing off and he hit mostly So Con pitching a week later. If you think that’s star material then crown him.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:58 pm to
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He was bad his first 2 SEC series going 2/18

the he went 25/81 with 9 BB in his last 8 SEC series.

And then obviously an awesome post season.


But he struggled against every good pitcher he faced
-Burretard
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:05 pm to
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28 H in 102 AB during the 30-game SEC schedule when teams are trying to win.


Like someone just posted above, after the first 2 SEC series he went on to hit 25/81 in the last 8 SEC series. But probably only against bad pitchers, right?

He went:

- 3/9 with a walk against NCAA tournament team Vandy
- 3/10 against CWS champion Tennessee
- 4/9 with 2 walks against the CWS runner up Texas A&M
- 4/10 with 1 walk against NCAA tournament team Alabama

Lots of bad pitching there I'm sure among all those NCAA tournament/CWS teams "trying" to win games. Right?
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

he';s been seen as a mid-late 1st rounder the whole time.


So you’re saying he didn’t help himself this year on defense then? Can’t have it both ways
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:08 pm to
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So you’re saying he didn’t help himself this year on defense then? Can’t have it both ways



Can you read? I've said the entire time he helped maintain his mid-late 1st round draft stock this season by playing a much better defensive 3B to OFFSET the fact his hitting was the worst it's been in 3 seasons in college.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
8001 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Further, we’ve seen Griffin be best as a reliever, so you are convinced he’ll be a star weekend starter at LSU if he returns? Interesting

Griffin is an All American this year. So he’s already a star and yes he would continue to be a star if he returned.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5492 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:08 pm to
.275 is .275

7 hole is the 7 hole (on an average hitting team)

Like I said, if you wanna crown him than put that crown on his head mane
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
8001 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

28 H in 102 AB during the 30-game SEC schedule when teams are trying to win. Most production came in series against Mizzou, Ole Miss and Auburn. Those are just the facts. He did heat up against subpar arms in Hoover when teams were throwing off and he hit mostly So Con pitching a week later. If you think that’s star material then crown him.

Wait so are we saying we should only count the stats that we want to to try to make a point? The hell are you talking about lol.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5492 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:10 pm to
Naw Fauci

Bat had no impact on his MLB stock from last year to now
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