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re: Will Jordan Jefferson start every game for LSU this season?

Posted on 6/6/11 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 11:44 am to
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Cam Newton


Pleaseeeeeeeee, stop with the Cam stuff. I haven't seen anyone/anywhere who thought Mett had the running ability of a CN.

There are always exceptions and cause you can cite 2 for 12 SEC teams, it doesn't follow that Mett will be/can be one. If he is, great. To have expectation of him being so is a tad over the top.imo

Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 11:48 am to
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Pleaseeeeeeeee, stop with the Cam stuff. I haven't seen anyone/anywhere who thought Mett had the running ability of a CN.


Mett is a running back?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 11:52 am to
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Pleaseeeeeeeee, stop with the Cam stuff. I haven't seen anyone/anywhere who thought Mett had the running ability of a CN.

There are always exceptions and cause you can cite 2 for 12 SEC teams, it doesn't follow that Mett will be/can be one. If he is, great. To have expectation of him being so is a tad over the top.imo


You missed the point entirely. There were 3 new starting QBs at UGA/TN/AUB and all 3 of them did very well. Two of them were redshirt freshmen and the other a JUCO guy. Clearly it's not as "Crazy" as you think it is for a new guy to do well.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 11:57 am to
JJ will start and finish the season as the qb for LSU........
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:05 pm to
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It has a whole lot more to do with how elite SEC football is/has been than anything to do with any newbe QB.



SEC QB's typically are not elite.

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If Mett is able to step in, not miss a beat from Juco ball, and out play JJ/JL...great.


He doesn't have to come close to his JC play to play better than JJ did last season.

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To have expectations of him being able to do so as some have expressed is indeed "a little crazy".imo


What are the expectations that have been set? Better than last years QB play? Dude, that isn't a very high expectation. I swear, some of you folks are seriously delusional. Did you not watch LSU's offense last season at all? The QB play was absolutely shitty.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:45 pm to
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How difficult is it to come in and do better than JJ/Lee did last year?
Not difficult at all.

It also wouldn't be difficult to do worse.

New QB's can be a mixed bag. I think Mett has what it takes, though.

But then, I thought Jamie Howard had what it took, too. . .
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:11 pm to
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It also wouldn't be difficult to do worse.


I think it would be extremely difficult and is extremely doubtful Mett could do worse than JJ did in 2010. The most difficult thing for him is to wait for the receivers to get over the shock of actually having thrown the ball to them in stride.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:23 pm to
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Does it matter that we have Mett if he never plays? JJ will start every game this year barring injury and he knows this


This!!!!!!!! From JJ's quotes it is obvious for some reason he believes he has played well enough and is deserving to be the unquestioned starting qb and it was very obvious last year he felt he was not going to be taken out of the starting lineup no matter how poorly he played. If he has the same attitude this year and Les lets him start despite a repeat of last years horrible output it will be bad for the Tigers.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:27 pm to
If you keep posting it would be worse
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:32 pm to
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It also wouldn't be difficult to do worse.


We probably will disagree on this, but it has little to do with the point. I don't think anyone expects Mett. to be all world, just better than we had last year. It's not setting the bar that high.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:38 pm to
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JJ will start and finish the season as the qb for LSU........


I certainly think this is the desire of the coaching staff going into the season.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:40 pm to
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We probably will disagree on this, but it has little to do with the point. I don't think anyone expects Mett. to be all world, just better than we had last year. It's not setting the bar that high.


I totally agree best case scenario Mett would be out of this world but that is highly unlikely and LSU really doesnt need great qb just consistent quality play. That would be a big improvement over last year and worst case I see no way he does as bad or worse than JJ. I could see Mett doing something like 60% comp, 16 TD's and 7 INT which would be a huge improvement but not sky high numbers,
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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JJ will start and finish the season as the qb for LSU........


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I certainly think this is the desire of the coaching staff going into the season.


And I certainly think based on his quotes JJ believes that he is entitled to start and will be the starter all season no matter how he plays.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62258 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 2:49 pm to
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I could see Mett doing something like 60% comp, 16 TD's and 7 INT which would be a huge improvement but not sky high numbers,


2009 JJ 17 TDs/7INT

Like I said before, 2009 JJ passing + 2010 JJ rushing = LSU 2011 SEC Champs.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 4:06 pm to
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Bobby Moore


Are you trying to kill this thread? Then you should quit bumping it by posting. Just sayin....
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 4:07 pm to
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It also wouldn't be difficult to do worse


There aren't many spots left between where JJ ranked and the bottom, so it might be tougher than you think
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 4:10 pm to
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Does it matter that we have Mett if he never plays?


The LSU staff have played Fr. and So. time after time. RS QBs have played and started. True Fr QBs have played and started.

The LSU staff has been as successful as any in our history. I have no problem allowing a successful staff who knows the players better than anyone else decide who starts/plays.

As to Crowton, I wish him well and thank him for his efforts, but he's not gone just cause the LSU QBs struggled at times in the past 3 seasons.imo

Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 5:08 pm to
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I could see Mett doing something like 60% comp, 16 TD's and 7 INT which would be a huge improvement but not sky high numbers,
It's too bad that Jefferson could never put up those kind of numbers . . .

Oh . . . no . . . wait . . . he did.

Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 6:15 pm to
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t's too bad that Jefferson could never put up those kind of numbers . . .

And people hated him for it, and called for him to be replaced.

But if Mett puts up those numbers, it's cool.

Clearly there is something else at work here. . .
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/6/11 at 10:14 pm to
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SEC QB's typically are not elite.


The 7 SEC 1st rd NFL QB draft picks since 03 and the 5 SEC QB's taken #1 overall since 98 might disagree with you.

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He doesn't have to come close to his JC play


That's good cause he will find SEC's D a tad tougher than anything he has faced in Juco ball.

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What are the expectations that have been set? Better than last years QB play? Dude, that isn't a very high expectation. I swear, some of you folks are seriously delusional


Perhaps the delusional ones are those who feel that a totally unproven/untested Juco QB will walk in and unseat 2 Sr. QBs who have quarter backed LSU to 20 wins in two seasons and a Top 8 NR in 2010, Dude.

I guess we will to see who starts the season at QB to decide where the delusional thinking is housed.

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