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re: Will Jordan Jefferson start every game for LSU this season?
Posted on 6/5/11 at 9:06 am to Chrome
Posted on 6/5/11 at 9:06 am to Chrome
QB Ranks
I agree with this! We dont need fantastic QB play from JJ. We dont need the #1 QB in the Nation to win a NC (however it would be nice). LSU lost by a TOTAL of 15 points last year. Arky we lost because of a missed FG and failure to convert on from the 3 yard line! We got the ball on the 9 yard line and could not push it in! Not ALL JJ's fault, but a LITTLE better performance and we win this game.
Auburn game was a little bit of a different story. They missed a FG BUT, we had 6 drives that went for less than 20 yards and only 2 of those 6 went for more than 10 yards. And the 51 yard first drive that we had that ended with an interception killed us as well.
I think if JJ can turn in a Top 80 QB performance this year we will be National Champions as long as the Defense plays like they show on paper. I am looking forward to this year, probably because if is the first time that I have season tickets, and am very optimistic about our chances of going to the Sugar Bowl and adding another trophy to our case! I dont care who our starting QB is as long as we win games, and I will definately take an Ugly win vs a Pretty loss any day of the week! All in all I support our LSU Tigers and HOPE that the coaches play whoever gives us the best chance to win. Wether it is JJ, JL, or Mett..... Here's to hopefully a memorable season of great LSU football and bringing home another National Championship!!
Oh..... the links to the drive stats,gotta scroll down a little to see each drive.
LSU vs Auburn
LSU vs Arky
I agree with this! We dont need fantastic QB play from JJ. We dont need the #1 QB in the Nation to win a NC (however it would be nice). LSU lost by a TOTAL of 15 points last year. Arky we lost because of a missed FG and failure to convert on from the 3 yard line! We got the ball on the 9 yard line and could not push it in! Not ALL JJ's fault, but a LITTLE better performance and we win this game.
Auburn game was a little bit of a different story. They missed a FG BUT, we had 6 drives that went for less than 20 yards and only 2 of those 6 went for more than 10 yards. And the 51 yard first drive that we had that ended with an interception killed us as well.
I think if JJ can turn in a Top 80 QB performance this year we will be National Champions as long as the Defense plays like they show on paper. I am looking forward to this year, probably because if is the first time that I have season tickets, and am very optimistic about our chances of going to the Sugar Bowl and adding another trophy to our case! I dont care who our starting QB is as long as we win games, and I will definately take an Ugly win vs a Pretty loss any day of the week! All in all I support our LSU Tigers and HOPE that the coaches play whoever gives us the best chance to win. Wether it is JJ, JL, or Mett..... Here's to hopefully a memorable season of great LSU football and bringing home another National Championship!!
Oh..... the links to the drive stats,gotta scroll down a little to see each drive.
LSU vs Auburn
LSU vs Arky
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Posted on 6/5/11 at 9:08 am to Rudy40
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I interpret as meaning mentally weak and unable to lead the offense due to this inadequacy.
wow. you got that from this:
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SN: What’s an example of how quarterback Jordan Jefferson improved this spring?
Shepard: Looking at the spring game, coming out with the opening drive, the first completion was a 20-yard crossing route. I was really the third read. To get to me, he had to go through the progressions; he’s got to let me come across the field, get behind the backer and underneath the safety. That takes patience. Last year, he would have taken off running. Or, it would have been a sack, which we took too many of last year. For him to hit me like he hit me, that says it all. I’ve been to the Manning Camp. I’ve watched Jordan throw with the Andrew Lucks, with the Andy Daltons, some very efficient, very successful quarterbacks. From a physical standpoint, he has everything. With Jordan, it’s all mental. One play, he’ll look amazing. Another play, you’ll be like, ‘Come on, Jordan.’ But Coach Kragthorpe is challenging him, and he’s spending hours and hours on his approach. I commend him for that.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/5/11 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/5/11 at 9:22 am to Rudy40
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I already know he cant make the throws.
If JJ physically cannot make the throws, then I seriously doubt that he would be under center. Sorry, but I'll trust the coaching staff to determine whether or not he has the capability of making the throws. Now whether he has a consistency problem is a totally different question.
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You might be pissed if any one other than JJ trots out to start the year but I think you would be more pissed to see this talent on offense waisted because we have a qb who cant get receivers the ball.
If you care to read my entire post, I've already stated that by the 3rd or 4th series, if JJ is not getting the job done, then I'll expect to see Lee in the game. Bottom line is that JJ is our best option to start the season, and then we'll have to see whether he's improved enough to retain that position.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 9:22 am to ATLTiger
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wow. you got that from this:
Yep when he says his problems are all mental it is obvious he means mentally weak. As in maybe he can figure it out in practice but cant do it in the game especially when only given a week to prepare. I have seen numerous times the past 2 seasons about how much JJ has improved, his mechanics, footwork and looking off receivers. Last year JJ was asked point blank by Buddy Songy (who I am not a huge fan of) if he had worked on looking off his primary target so db's couldnt cheat and he replied he had done so and expected it to help him a good bit. Did anyone see JJ look off his primary receiver once last year??? He stared them down just like he always has. Again maybe he can do it in practice but he as of the spring game hasnt produced results in games.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 11:26 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:I think Mett will overtake him at some point.
Will JJ be the starter from start to finish this fall?
But you know what would piss off some of the people on this board? JJ starting, and winning, every game this season.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 11:31 am to Roaad
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But you know what would piss off some of the people on this board? JJ starting, and winning, every game this season.
If he can do it that would be awesome. But again past performance is the best indication of future performance and based on his past performance and his quotes this offseason I dont see any reason to expect him to make a senior transformation in performance or maturity to develop into a decent qb after being one of the worst in the country last year not to mention the 11th or 12th best starting qb in the SEC.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 12:45 pm to Rudy40
I think he looked pretty good in the Spring Game, considering he was playing with a hurt thumb on his throwing hand. . .that got aggravated during the game.
So that's something to consider.
So that's something to consider.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 2:27 pm to Geaux Tahel
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My guess is the board will be more pissed if JJ wins every game. Haters gonna hate. Either way, they are already tying their nooses.
it seems like it is more of the board than it really is. It's just the same few posters that are like broken records that post the same stupid anti Jefferson stuff over and over.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 2:36 pm to boxcar willie
JJ will sink or swim on his own regardless of what his supporters or detractors say, just like last year. He is the starter, period. No one else is in contention.
This post was edited on 6/5/11 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 6/5/11 at 5:45 pm to Geaux Tahel
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Geaux Tahel
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tying their nooses.
Not sure that kind of comment is every required you dumb frick.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:07 pm to slackster
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Not sure that kind of comment is every required you dumb frick.
I agree Slackser it is obvious Geaus Tahel cant make a objective argument so he resorts to innuendos and trying to imply racism.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:08 pm to slackster
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Not sure that kind of comment is every required you dumb frick.
You are not sure? Yet you call someone a dumb frick? You can't spell "even", but can call someone dumb?
What exactly was so inappropriate that you got sand in your vagina?
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:14 pm to Rudy40
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I agree Slackser it is obvious Geaus Tahel cant make a objective argument so he resorts to innuendos and trying to imply racism.
Wow! You are a genius.
Has it ever occurred to you that race has nothing to do with lynching?
I've seen plenty of westerns where cowboys lynch other same race cowboys.
I've seen Young Frankenstein where the lynch mob tries to hang "the monster" I didn't realize "the monster" was a race.
I've seen Pirates of the Caribbean. There are a few scenes of hanging in the series. I don't think any of them were "race" related.
I saw some horror movie where they tried to hang some retarded guy and he came back and killed everyone. Might have been called "scarecrow". I didn't know retard-ism is a race.
So maybe you stupid fricks are the racist ones and automatically jumped to that conclusion. You guys especially Rudy, are complete morons.
This post was edited on 6/5/11 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:18 pm to Geaux Tahel
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So maybe you stupid fricks are the racist ones and automatically jumped to that conclusion. You guys especially Rudy, are complete morons.
Actually the person who cant make objective arguments and has to resort to name calling and changing the argument about JJ's statistics and quotes to innuendos and accusations. Obviously he is confused when you cloud the argument with facts and logic so he resorts to name calling.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:29 pm to Rudy40
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Actually the person who cant make objective arguments and has to resort to name calling and changing the argument about JJ's statistics and quotes to innuendos and accusations. Obviously he is confused when you cloud the argument with facts and logic so he resorts to name calling.
Nice try. Why don't you just keep calling me a racist. Make more shite up cause you have no rebuttal to the fact idiot rantards want to lynch mob one single player for problems caused by the WHOLE OFFENSE.
I'll say it again since you are slow... WHOLE OFFENSE... 11 players. Yet only one is being put on the chopping block.
Wait.. is chopping block a racist remark? You jackass. Do yourself a favor and shut up. You are embarrassing yourself.
This post was edited on 6/5/11 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:50 pm to Geaux Tahel
Ok again genius since you dont bring any facts or statistics to the argument just name calling and accusations here is the link to the 2010 NCAA rushing rankings. Fact LSU was the 26th ranked rushing offense in the country. LINK
Looks to me like the running backs, Oline and WR's did a pretty decent job blocking for a pretty good running game. Just cause you say all 11 guys didnt do their job on offense doesnt make it a fact it is still your opinion and obviously not a very informed one.
Here is the rankings for passing offense they were 102nd in the nation the main difference being that in the running game they had a competent rb Ridley for the most part carrying the ball and the passing offense they had JJ throwing balls at WR's feet and over their head and into the chest of the db's.
LINK
You can blame everyone else all you want and in fact you whine alot like your idol JJ. When questioned blame someone else seems to be the motto both of you follow but it seems to me it would be touch to blame the Left tackle for an incompletion when the qb is consistently missing open receivers.
Looks to me like the running backs, Oline and WR's did a pretty decent job blocking for a pretty good running game. Just cause you say all 11 guys didnt do their job on offense doesnt make it a fact it is still your opinion and obviously not a very informed one.
Here is the rankings for passing offense they were 102nd in the nation the main difference being that in the running game they had a competent rb Ridley for the most part carrying the ball and the passing offense they had JJ throwing balls at WR's feet and over their head and into the chest of the db's.
LINK
You can blame everyone else all you want and in fact you whine alot like your idol JJ. When questioned blame someone else seems to be the motto both of you follow but it seems to me it would be touch to blame the Left tackle for an incompletion when the qb is consistently missing open receivers.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 6:53 pm to Rudy40
tl/dr
Hanging one person for the problems of the whole offense was clearly explained in the other thread (and hundreds others) where we already went over this. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. You will always be wrong.
Teams do NOT play with just 1 person of offense. Grow up and learn the game. Again. You are embarrassing yourself.
Hanging one person for the problems of the whole offense was clearly explained in the other thread (and hundreds others) where we already went over this. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. You will always be wrong.
Teams do NOT play with just 1 person of offense. Grow up and learn the game. Again. You are embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 7:01 pm to Geaux Tahel
Actually your blind love for JJ is embarassing. Obviously there are 11 players on offense but when the qb cannot consistently even complete a simple bubble screen it is the qb namely JJ holding the offense back or do you think that if you have 10 great offensive players on the field you could put a horrible qb out there and there would be no difference in the offense with him or Joe Montana. That is only one player but I would be more than willing to bet the offense with Montana and 10 other great offensive players with him would significantly outperform the same
offense with 10 great offensive players and one horrible one say JJ at qb. Or for example last years offense with a competent qb would have been much better than the one with JJ at qb.
So argue with me that one player especially a qb cant significantly help or hurt an offense. You can scream and rant all you want and imititate your idol and blame others but facts are facts. JJ put up his stats and JJ was the one who whined and said he wasnt put in a situation to succeed last year and after the McNeese game when he amasssed 4 total yards of offense said he thought he played well!!!!!!
offense with 10 great offensive players and one horrible one say JJ at qb. Or for example last years offense with a competent qb would have been much better than the one with JJ at qb.
So argue with me that one player especially a qb cant significantly help or hurt an offense. You can scream and rant all you want and imititate your idol and blame others but facts are facts. JJ put up his stats and JJ was the one who whined and said he wasnt put in a situation to succeed last year and after the McNeese game when he amasssed 4 total yards of offense said he thought he played well!!!!!!
Posted on 6/5/11 at 7:08 pm to Rudy40
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Actually your blind love for JJ is embarassing.
Actually your ignorance is embarrassing, where you can't even tell the difference between someones blind love for a QB, and someones knowledge that there are 11 people on the field for the offense.
Apparently your TV is broken. Cause you didn't see all the...
false starts,
holding penalties,
dropped passes,
WRs that don't block downfield like we are used to seeing in Clayton/Reed/Bowe,
WRs that don't fight for jump balls, again like we are used to seeing in Clayton/Reed/Bowe,
Lackluster playcalling
Again, learn the game and you might learn the difference between someone sticking up for JJ, and someone thats just smart enough to see there are problems other than just the QB.
Your blind hatred is more embarrassing.
Troll on fool!
Posted on 6/5/11 at 7:12 pm to Rudy40
yeah, i hope he does start every game; mett (so called) is wet behind the ears in div 1, no ?
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