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re: Will another 4 or 5 loss season get Jimbo crossed-off Woodward' s future HC wish-list?

Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49087 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:49 pm to
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Anyone with eyes can see that the O-Haters have been pimping extra hard against O since Woodward took over. 
you're such an insecure little idiot who started this thread just to argue.

Show me post where people are asking for him to bring jimbo.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, O fans are only fans of him, not LSU. And on top of that, they're very insecure. We all know what the insecurity stems from.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:52 pm to
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The term "most important person" is vague at best. Orgeron has become a CEO-type leader. Other HCs are more hands-on. 


No it isnt.

The best head coaches in all of football are the most important people on their staff.
Saban,Belichick,spurrier,parcels,
Lambeau,Payton.

No one on this earth would choose to pick Ed Orgeron for head coach before choosing Aranda as DC.
If there were cfb coaches draft I doubt a single p5 school would choose O as a coordinator let alone HC. Ensminger either.
Everyone with a brain knows Aranda is the most important person on this staff and without him this entire thing crumbles. No one else on this staff has proven they can successfully create a defensive gameplan week I and week out.
O is a recruiter and motivator.
We just had one of those.
Posted by crazycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
567 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:54 pm to
There are better, younger coaches out there and, at this point, we have a coach. He will have to prove that he can’t do the job. I am not a big fan but you have to give him some support.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:04 pm to
Derek, it doesn't matter why Jimbo does. if EdO loses 3 games this year, Woodward goes after the best available coach for LSU, just like he did at A&M

Hell, we might even land Urban
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:04 pm to
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No one on this earth would choose to pick Ed Orgeron for head coach before choosing Aranda as DC.
If there were cfb coaches draft I doubt a single p5 school would choose O as a coordinator let alone HC. Ensminger either.
Orgeron is good with letting Aranda run his D. But there are a dozen other DCs that Orgeron would give the same leeway - and Aranda's D has more to do with the exceptional playing talent than his 'brilliance'.

He couldn't stop ATM in 7 OTs? No adjustment. He got blown our 59-0 by Ohio State's 3rd string QB? No adjustment.

Very good DC? Yes. The only DC who could excel with LSU's talent? Hell no.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:10 pm to
Aranda was the top DC in the country before he came to LSU. Sorry but that’s just a fact, we had to put his numbers up against Venables and other because people like you were attacking Aranda last year and it was proven that he had outperformed them in every major statistical category.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:12 pm to
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The O-Haters fawn over Jimbo 24/7 on this site.


BS, you and your various alters bring him or Herman up all the time and others respond. Only the last week when Woodward was named AD did some bring up Fisher
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:14 pm to
Yep, if O gets shitcanned after this season or next, Urban will be the target for sure. Not sure why the O pumpers are so insecure about Jimbo.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Orgeron is good with letting Aranda run his D.


Because O cant.
Please fill me in on the last time O ran a defense.
Ole miss comes to mind.
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 But there are a dozen other DCs that Orgeron would give the same leeway - and Aranda's D has more to do with the exceptional playing talent than his 'brilliance'. 

Because of he has to.
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He couldn't stop ATM in 7 OTs

He held A&M to 2 fgs in the 1st 4 OT.
Let's not even add that his defense had to score just to tie the game.
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Very good DC? Yes. The only DC who could excel with LSU's talent? Hell no.

Cool. None of that changes the fact that Aranda is vastly more important to the success of lsu than O. Those dozen other coordinators would be more important too.

Anytime a HC is so reliant on good coordinators,he isnt the most important person on his staff.

And before you label this as O hate, I dont think Miles was the most important person on his staff either.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Aranda was the top DC in the country before he came to LSU. Sorry but that’s just a fact.
He was a joke in the Big 10 after Cardale Jones hung 59 points on Aranda's Wisconsin defense.

Jones had 3 live practices (all season long) with the first team before starting against Wisconsin.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Very good DC? Yes. The only DC who could excel with LSU's talent? Hell no.

You’re probably right, but the caveat is O would be the one who would have to hire Aranda’s replacement and the odds of him making the right choice are slim and none.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:16 pm to
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You spent all of 2018 calling everyone who didn’t believe the 2019 recruiting class was going to be legendary stupid. It finished as the 4th best in the conference. Now you’re doing the same thing for the 2020 class.

You have no credibility here



So you're so fricking stupid that you're in here shitting on the number 4 class.

Dumbfrick
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:17 pm to
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You’re probably right, but the caveat is O would be the one who would have to hire Aranda’s replacement and the odds of him making the right choice are slim and none



More nonsensical blather
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
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To be fair, Jimbo didn't lose to Troy No he's lost to Louisville, ncstate multiple times, Houston, Boston college. every coach has embarrassing losses. It takes a little bitch to keep harping on them.


While I agree the Troy game gets harped on too much, this is a stupid comparison. NC St, Louisville and BC are all ACC teams and Houston finished in the top 10.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
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I would be thrilled if we pulled in the number 1 class. I don’t think we will. Last year’s was ranked number 1 at one point too. What’s different this year


That barring some unforeseen circumstance the class should finish no lower than 3. There's a possibility that LSU takes the top spot and stays there.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
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He was a joke in the Big 10 after Cardale Jones hung 59 points on Aranda's Wisconsin defense. 




You mean when Wisconsin finished 4th in country in opponents yards per game?

That's with all of 1 NFL draft pick in the next 2 NFL drafts.


This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:22 pm to
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o you're so fricking stupid that you're in here shitting on the number 4 class. 

Dumbfu


Or you're a dumbfrick for touting the 4th best class in the sec.
You do realize we finished with the 4th best class in the conf,right?
right now O is averaging out as the 5th best sec recruiting in the last 2 years.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:24 pm to
He hired E to run his offense, an objectively terrible hire. Before that he hired Canada and fired him after one season because Canada didn’t take too kindly to him meddling in the offense. There is no historical basis to think O would make a good hire at DC to replace Aranda.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:25 pm to
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He couldn't stop ATM in 7 OTs? No adjustment. He got blown our 59-0 by Ohio State's 3rd string QB? No adjustment.

Very good DC? Yes. The only DC who could excel with LSU's talent? Hell no.

Good God, Derek. Now youre attacking the DC?

If Aranda falters at LSU, Coach O doesn't get a chance to replace him. The entire staff goes at that point. You should be on your knees this Easter saying many prayers for Aranda, because that's the only thing keeping you in the job of grabbing O's coffee
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:25 pm to
“He was a joke in the Big 10 after Cardale Jones hung 59 points on Aranda's Wisconsin defense.”


Lmfao yea the DC who led the big ten in points and yardage allowed for his entire tenure was a joke because of one game. My god you’re stupid. But let me guess we aren’t allowed to point out any single games, seasons or even tenures that made 0 look bad previously. That would be unfair and selective am I right? If you people didn’t have double standards you wouldn’t have any standards at all.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:28 pm
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