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re: Why was CEH kick returner?

Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:19 am to
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On that opening kick off return vs UCF, anyone else with speed would’ve taken that to the house


A speed guy likely wouldn't have gotten out of the initial scrum that he broke through, so this idea is stupid.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:21 am to
Maybe someone with more speed and less elusiveness..... Perhaps less field vision would have gotten tackled at the 30. I've seen it all here now. It's been years since someone broke free on a kickoff return. It finally happens and then the resident rant retard complains about top end speed of the guy who finally broke free

This is a weird flex but okay
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 9:40 am
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16645 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:32 am to
I’m still wondering why Miles waited till Patrick Peterson’s last year at LSU to let him return. I guess it’s a trust issue with ball security. There are plenty of speed guys on that team who probably returned in High School.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50852 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:33 am to
Kick returns are slowly becoming extinct.
Either you have a kicker that can knock it thru end zone or you are pooching it inside 10 to get a fair catch. Helaire didn't have many chances to return any this year but is fine in that role. The only reason they will keep it in the game is for onside kicks.

Punt return is where they have to improve just to improve field position.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6707 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:39 am to
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This always puzzled me. He’s not a homerun threat type of guy.
LSU had another running back that returned P/KO that wasn't a "homerun threat".....Kevin Faulk.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59070 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:41 am to
Odd timing.

Bold move
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32153 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:49 am to
I suspect because of his vision.

Certainly speed is a desirable trait (and it's not like Helaire is a TE. He has some speed). But that doesn't always work out if you don't have vision to go with it.

Many times you will see a pure speed guy come flying up field and either (a) run slap arse into a pile or (b) get crushed because he never sees the defender coming at him. The flip side is on the occasions the blockers blow open a huge hole directly in front of the speed returner.

At the end of the day I don't know if I would say CEH is the #1 option. Just maybe the best option of what is available.

Dillon is probably faster, but I think there are some ball control concerns. Aside from him, I don't know if there are any WR's who are significantly faster than CEH (Maybe Chase?). Also, O may want a guy who is used to handling the ball back there as opposed to a DB.
Posted by cajunsaint
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
575 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:51 am to
Check out CEH's Hudl highlights from his Junior year. He is unreal returning punts/kicks.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
5201 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:55 am to
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Because he broke a tackle...? Ok. Cool. Geaux Tigers


You ask a question and then be a smart arse when someone answers...?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39949 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:58 am to
DIdnt he break a handful of tackles to get into the open field?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171903 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:06 am to
Only on this fricking website will people bitch about something that works.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29402 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:12 am to
Because the short answer is: Jonathan Giles sucked
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:15 am to
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Skippy_


That went well didn't it?
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
408 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:33 am to
1. He has good vision.

2. He's hard to tackle.

3. He is dependable.

4. It sounds very "Louisiana-ish" when on the first play of the game the announcer says: "Back deep to receive for the Tigers is Clyde Edwards EE-Lair."
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21671 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:15 am to
CEH killed it out there on Tuesday
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10340 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:23 pm to
CEH was fine back there. Nick was the questionable one.

Giles was the weakest punt returner I can ever recall in an LSU uniform.

It's ok to be critical of coaches choices in the return game, because overall they were poor.
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