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re: Why is Joe Alleva still employed at LSU?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:29 pm to BayouCowboy
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:29 pm to BayouCowboy
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I get the frustration with the process and I am no fan of Alleva. I wanted him gone, but results are results
The process is what matters. Results are variable and impacted by random and outside factors. The key to sustained success over the long haul is the process. Just ask Nick Saban.
Sometimes you're going to go about it the right way and it won't work out, sometimes you'll screw the pooch and things will fall into place anyway. It's flawed thinking to focus on the results rather than the process you took to get there, because in the long run if your process is good the results you're looking for will come from that more often than not.
As it relates to Alleva, even if O works out that's really irrelevant because the route he took to get there was SO bad, and it's far more likely than not going forward that if we use that same decision making process for future decisions the results will be poor.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 1:35 pm
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:32 pm to BlueTiger54
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He's able to raise a crap load of money and produce a significant amount of revenue
LSU won two freaking National Titles. He didn't raise shite, program was on autopilot. The other money making program had led the entire country in attendance way before Joe ever got here.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The process is what matters. Results are variable and impacted by random and outside factors. The key to sustained success over the long haul is the process. Just ask Nick Saban.
Sometimes you're going to go about it the right way and it won't work out, sometimes you'll screw the pooch and things will fall into place anyway. It's flawed thinking to focus on the results rather than the process you took to get there, because in the long run if your process is good the results you're looking for will come from that more often than not.
This might be true for a lot of things, but not college football hiring. A single coach can change your program for 20 years. Mal Moore could have hired Saban by drawing names out of a hat and no one at bama would give a shite.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:38 pm to Alt26
Up vote.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:41 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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This might be true for a lot of things, but not college football hiring.
it's especially true in something as pivotal as a college football coach hiring. there are so many moving parts it's imperative you have the best process possible.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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it's especially true in something as pivotal as a college football coach hiring. there are so many moving parts it's imperative you have the best process possible.
So like... a binder?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The process is what matters. Results are variable and impacted by random and outside factors. The key to sustained success over the long haul is the process. Just ask Nick Saban.
I get that and for the record I am very skeptical that O can have sustained success, but I am willing to give him a temporary stay of execution (metaphorically speaking) after the Troy game due to what appears to be improved performances.
I agree about most people's thoughts on Alleva as well. After all the reports that came out after Toy as well as the hiring process I was pissed. The Wade hire looks to be a homerun. Time will tell. As for now, if we get positive results I will sit back and enjoy the ride. If not. It's off to the gallows for Alleva too.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:48 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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So like... a binder?
if you're trying to be the one getting hired, yeah
if you're the one doing the hiring you need to consider all possibilities and not lock in on a guy just bc he has a binder, wants the job, and you want to beat Texas to the podium.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:57 pm to boxcar willie
No he's not. He blew the Les firing two years in a row. He blew it 3 times with Jimbo Fisher and with Herman because he tried to low ball both. He botched the O hiring and the contract negotiation. He hired two epic fails in basketball with the last one being Johnny Jones, he's thrown millions at a women's basketball coach who has done nothing and he allowed the best track coach in college track to leave LSU for a conference rival. He also has allowed crappy piped in music into Tiger Stadium. While Wade is promising, we don't know how that is going to turn out. But when he hired JJ he allowed himself to be manipulated by former coach and player. His contract negotiation skills are amateur hour.
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