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re: Why I would have stuck with Ack
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:51 pm to RB10
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:51 pm to RB10
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Ack only closed 2 games this season. It’s not a spot he pitches in much either.
He’s pitched in high leverage relief spots for two seasons now. Same thing
Totally different spot for a starter, who did not have to be forced into that spot the way Ackenhausen was pitching
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:51 pm to Lester Earl
Dumb take. Wofford 5 runs says hello. Inconsistent and not trustworthy. Best decision was made. Jump was the answer. Our bats didn’t get it done. End the horseshite with Ack and Brown
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:52 pm to Lester Earl
If Ack would’ve blown it, he would’ve been crucified when he had Jump available lmao
I know it’s your job to do things like this, but you can’t truly believe it’s not a safe call to play your ace
I know it’s your job to do things like this, but you can’t truly believe it’s not a safe call to play your ace
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:52 pm to DBG
Yeah, i think jump was fine. But not his best version. It was gonna be tough facing a top 5 team in their park with lots of juniors and seniors.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:53 pm to Lester Earl
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He’s pitched in high leverage relief spots for two seasons now. Same thing
Except it isn’t, or Ack would have been closing games all season. Theres high leverage and there’s closing.
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Totally different spot for a starter, who did not have to be forced into that spot the way Ackenhausen was pitching
Starters are brought in to close games late all the time.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:54 pm to RB10
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Ack only closed 2 games this season. It’s not a spot he pitches in much either.
Surely you understand that throwing in high leverage spots in the 7th and 8th inning is much more similar to closing, than being a year long starter.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:55 pm to josh336
Scripts are dumb though. Hellmers throwing 5.1 wasn’t in any script. There is no better evidence to base decisions on than what is going on in the game.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:55 pm to josh336
Josh, I truly think either decision is fine. It’s 50/50 to me.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:55 pm to Lester Earl
Oh i agree
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:56 pm to LSBoosie
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Surely you understand that throwing in high leverage spots in the 7th and 8th inning is much more similar to closing, than being a year long starter.
Sure. I also understand that coaches make this same decision across the country, every year.
Ack is inconsistent. Has been since day 1. I don’t understand anyone wanting the inconsistent reliever in that spot over the teams #1.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:56 pm to RB10
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Starters are brought in to close games late all the time
Jump was brought in relief exactly 1 time this year.. his first appearance as a tiger
Pitching is so routine based. Starters typically need more time to get ready, go through their routine, etc. Completely different getting hot in the middle of a game
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:57 pm to RB10
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Except it isn’t,
No, it really is, but that is another argument for another day.
The point that is an unnatural spot for Jump to pitch. On short rest, nonetheless.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:57 pm to Honkus
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Pitching is so routine based. Starters typically need more time to get ready, go through their routine, etc. Completely different getting hot in the middle of a game
Yet starters are brought in to close elimination games at this level every year.
This wasn’t some off the wall move.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:57 pm to josh336
IMO, bottom line is it’s an understandable decision. And you can live with that right or wrong. It’s not like he moved off Ack for a random down the line guy.
Would’ve been hard for me, a nobody spectactor, to move off Ack (definitely do not know baseball better than JJ) but I can live with any decision in baseball if there’s a reason that makes sense behind it.
And whether you agree with the move to Jump or not, it’s not nonsensical.
Would’ve been hard for me, a nobody spectactor, to move off Ack (definitely do not know baseball better than JJ) but I can live with any decision in baseball if there’s a reason that makes sense behind it.
And whether you agree with the move to Jump or not, it’s not nonsensical.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:58 pm to Honkus
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Jump was brought in relief exactly 1 time this year.. his first appearance as a tiger
Right, which doesn’t even count. He was pitching in 1-2 inning spurts all offseason. It was how they ramped him up
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:58 pm to Lester Earl
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No, it really is, but that is another argument for another day.
The point that is an unnatural spot for Jump to pitch. On short rest, nonetheless.
Weird that coaches do it all the time then. Even Skip Bertman.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:58 pm to DBG
quote:Exactly
Josh, I truly think either decision is fine. It’s 50/50 to me.
Except one doesn’t get you crucified if it fails.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:58 pm to DBG
Really the only thing in hindsight I question is throwing offspeed to Gallaher who was struggling with Jumps fastball.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:59 pm to RB10
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1. I don’t understand anyone wanting the inconsistent reliever in that spot over the teams #1.
Because it is a much more natural spot for the reliever. It’s not natural spot for the starter to come in the 9th inning 3 days after throw 100+ pitches.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:00 pm to LSBoosie
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Because it is a much more natural spot for the reliever. It’s not natural spot for the starter to come in the 9th inning 3 days after throw 100+ pitches.
“Weird that coaches do it all the time then. Even Skip Bertman.”
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