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re: Why I completely agree with Miles' decision...
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:33 am to Mike Linebacker
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:33 am to Mike Linebacker
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At least let Lee have a chance. The offense talent SCREAMs for a gunslinger. Picks and all. With Lee, we can score on anyone and put up 35, 40 points. With JJ--eh. Maybe a couple of scores if Shepard breaks free.
Yeah like Lee did last year against LA Tech when he was 7 of 22 for a whopping 31 percent completion rate and 1 touchdown. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was even worse than JJ's performance last week and it came against far worse competition.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:36 am to aglandry
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No matter who gets the nod, I sure hope the LSU fans don't boo this team. If we want to be considered the best fans in America, we need to start acting like it.
This would be terrible for a home opener.
I do hope fans stand behind JJ and cheer him on. Should he lay another egg like at Vandy, all bets are off. The fans will want to put pressure on Miles to make a change.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:36 am to BobBoucher
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I dont recall JJ ever having a head-turning great game to counterbalance his poor games.
He only has had one poor game so for, while his backup had 8 bad games his first season and 2 horrible ones last season.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:36 am to Dead Fish
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If you believe the NC game was like last Saturday's game then you better lay off the crack!
True. He had some good throws against UNC. But let's not go making a 151 yard passing performance into more than it is. He made some terrible decisions (including the pick and the seemingly 15 yard grounding play). He could not move the offense in the second half save one drive. He was OK against UNC.
So OK and horrific to start 2010. And horrific came against a very bad pass defense at Vandy.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:38 am to Dead Fish
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Actually JJ threw for almost 2200 yards with a completion rate of 61.5% and 17 touchdowns with just 7 interceptions last season. JJ can certainly throw all right. The problems last year were due to a horrible offensive line, no running game, and an incompetent OC. You can blame it all on JJ if you like, but it is obvious that you are oblivious.
You don't know football, my friend.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:41 am to Dead Fish
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JJ's game last Saturday was out of character for him. It would be ludicrous to believe that he would repeat such a performance again.
Wow...we actually agree on something.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:42 am to Dead Fish
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He only has had one poor game so for
Hes had 1 REALLY poor game so far. hes had plenty of other sub-par games for a BCS contender.
our 1,825,029th ranked offense from last year says a lot.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:45 am to Mike Linebacker
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Actually JJ threw for almost 2200 yards with a completion rate of 61.5% and 17 touchdowns with just 7 interceptions last season. JJ can certainly throw all right. The problems last year were due to a horrible offensive line, no running game, and an incompetent OC. You can blame it all on JJ if you like, but it is obvious that you are oblivious.
how do you explain the terrible throws missing wide open WRs last week, and throwing a TD pass 7 feet short of a 6'4" receiver for an int?
is that the O lines fault or Crowton's fault?
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:46 am to Alt26
If JJ sucks it up and the coaches continue to allow it to happen I have no problem with people booing. We pay to see them play. We should get their best effort. Continuously putting that kid on the field when he clearly isn't getting better will not be tolerated. People aren't booing the player. They are booing the coaches who refuse to substitute that player. It baffles me that the QB is the only player who can suck it up play after play and not get disciplined for it. Part of the reason why Spurrier was so good at Florida was his treatment of QBs. It worked.
Hopefully JJ comes out and does great. A lot of us have serious doubts now after the first two games. Juniors should play better than they did as freshmen. Can Lee be that much worse??
Hopefully JJ comes out and does great. A lot of us have serious doubts now after the first two games. Juniors should play better than they did as freshmen. Can Lee be that much worse??
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:46 am to BobBoucher
I just want to move frwd with both JJ and JL in a positive manner.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:48 am to BT
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I have a want to move frwd with both JJ and JL in a positive manner.
fixed it for you
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:51 am to Chazz Reinhold
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I have no problem with people booing. We pay to see them play.
Yes but they aren't professionals.
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People aren't booing the player. They are booing the coaches who refuse to substitute that player.
This may be true of some; maybe even the majority. But it's not true of all and there is no way to differentiate.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:52 am to BobBoucher
But JJ is going to have to start helping the defense some also by keeping the ball away from the other teams offense.
Look at our passing game when compared to the rest of the SEC, it is non-exsistant. If he does not start throwing the ball they are going to start loading the box and what running game we do have is going to go away. It's as simple as that. It just sems to me that JJ and the WR's are not working together to staighten things out. All JJ see's is the primary reciever and then after that nothing. Last weekend there was Wr after WR wide open and he just would not throw the ball to them because they were not the primary reciever and you could see they were getting frustrated because of it.
I want to see the team utilizing all it's weapons not just a shell of the team that we have. We should be first in total offense with the WR's to go with the RB's we have. There should be problems all over the field for the opposistion to worry about and not just our running game.
Look at our passing game when compared to the rest of the SEC, it is non-exsistant. If he does not start throwing the ball they are going to start loading the box and what running game we do have is going to go away. It's as simple as that. It just sems to me that JJ and the WR's are not working together to staighten things out. All JJ see's is the primary reciever and then after that nothing. Last weekend there was Wr after WR wide open and he just would not throw the ball to them because they were not the primary reciever and you could see they were getting frustrated because of it.
I want to see the team utilizing all it's weapons not just a shell of the team that we have. We should be first in total offense with the WR's to go with the RB's we have. There should be problems all over the field for the opposistion to worry about and not just our running game.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:53 am to Mike Linebacker
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But let's not go making a 151 yard passing performance into more than it is.
Well then lets not blame Lee because Crowton called running plays in the second half.
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He made some terrible decisions (including the pick and the seemingly 15 yard grounding play).
On the pick, he tried to throw away the ball, but didn’t get it out of bounds. It didn’t matter, as there was less than 10 seconds on the clock to end the half. The grounding play is the only bad decision he made, but then again if you are in field goal range, why even call that play to begin with and what about the blocking. Hence, it’s partially the fault of Crowton and the line too.
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He could not move the offense in the second half save one drive.
Again, he doesn’t call the plays. Hence, it wasn’t his fault, because it was the play calling.
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He was OK against UNC.
He hit over 70 percent of his passes with 2 touchdowns including a spectacular 51 yard bomb. You are smoking crack.
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So OK and horrific to start 2010.
Jordan’s first bad game of his career hardly equals a horrific start, and even his performance last week was better than JL’s performance against LA Tech last season.
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And horrific came against a very bad pass defense at Vandy.
And JL’s 7 for 22 performance came against LA Tech that was so decimated they had to play walk-on players. Not to mention that they also out gained us by over a 100 yards in that game. Lay off the crack. Not to mention JL’s Bama performance was even worse than the LA Tech game, and lets not get into his NCAA record breaking season in 2008.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:55 am to Mike Linebacker
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You don't know football, my friend.
And you must be smoking crack!
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:55 am to Chazz Reinhold
quote:Yes, he can, and there's proof of this. But I believe he has earned another shot and this would have been a great game to give him the start. - But at this point I just hope to see him in the game (and I don't mean just for the last few meaningless series).
Can Lee be that much worse??
Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:57 am to Choctaw
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Wow...we actually agree on something.
I agree that JJ isn't our problem, as he only had one bad game so for. The biggest problem is the incompetent OC and the incompetent head coach that hired him and now refuses to fire him.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 9:00 am to BobBoucher
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Hes had 1 REALLY poor game so far. hes had plenty of other sub-par games for a BCS contender.
Up until last week, JJ was hitting over 60 percent of his passes for his career, and for a first time starter he actually had a pretty descent season last year considering how piss poor our offensive line and running game was last season and considering that our OC and head coach are both incompetent.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 9:01 am to Dead Fish
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Yeah like Lee did last year against LA Tech when he was 7 of 22 for a whopping 31 percent completion rate and 1 touchdown. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was even worse than JJ's performance last week and it came against far worse competition.
JJ was better suited for 09' offense because with no O-Line he could scramble somewhat. JL needs a pocket. I believe this O-line can create a pocket for QB, so any JL stat from 09' irrelevant. I want to see what a true pocket QB can do. If he still sux, discussion over
Posted on 9/17/10 at 9:02 am to Dead Fish
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It didn’t matter, as there was less than 10 seconds on the clock to end the half.
That interception against North Carolina didn't matter after it happened. But go back and watch that play. It was very close to being taken back to the house for a pick 6. Thats is a very bad potential mistake.
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