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Why do you care that our coach is a "good guy?"
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:41 pm
i keep hearing people talk over and over again about how this coach or that coach is a "Bad guy" and how miles is such a "Good guy." why does it matter to you?
for example, saban may be the dick of all dicks, but he recruited/produced some fine guys. his personality didn't automatically mean that our players are going to be crappy guys. and miles has had a few bad apples, so the "player" angle does not exist
i mean if you hire a "bad guy" as in "recruiter so dirty that your school will get hit by the NCAA," then ok i see your point. that's not a guy who we want or should be expected to support. i just mean personality-wise
for example, saban may be the dick of all dicks, but he recruited/produced some fine guys. his personality didn't automatically mean that our players are going to be crappy guys. and miles has had a few bad apples, so the "player" angle does not exist
i mean if you hire a "bad guy" as in "recruiter so dirty that your school will get hit by the NCAA," then ok i see your point. that's not a guy who we want or should be expected to support. i just mean personality-wise
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Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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for example, saban may be the dick of all dicks,
Present company excluded?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:44 pm to SlipperyPete
i'm the nicest guy ever
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why do you care that our coach is a "good guy?"
I don't.
I don't really care if the players are good guys either as long as we're winning. I've always said, you've gotta let your thugs play. Tom Osborne didn't win his first national title until he let Jason (or was it Christian) Peters and Lawrence Phillips play. As long as the players aren't shooting/raping people...I don't care.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm sure....just couldn't resist the setup.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's not that confusing. Good people are easier to like than bad people ... nice people are easier to like than mean people ... there's nothing really mind-blowing in those statements.
If I had the choice of a good guy that wins or a bad guy that wins, I'm taking the good guy. If I had a choice between a good guy that loses and a bad guy that wins, I'm taking the winner, lol. But then again we don't get the choice. We have what we have.
If I had the choice of a good guy that wins or a bad guy that wins, I'm taking the good guy. If I had a choice between a good guy that loses and a bad guy that wins, I'm taking the winner, lol. But then again we don't get the choice. We have what we have.
This post was edited on 12/2/08 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Croom was a nice guy.
I don't want him as a head coach.
I don't want him as a head coach.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:46 pm to SlipperyPete
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Jason (or was it Christian) Peters and Lawrence Phillips play
But, Peters and Phillips were doing that, right?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:49 pm to specs1
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But, Peters and Phillips were doing that, right?
Exactly. They were scum...but they won a national title, and most only remember that Osborne won the title...not who was on the team.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:49 pm to JPLSU1981
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It's not that confusing. Good people are easier to like than bad people ... nice people are easier to like than mean people ... there's nothing really mind-blowing in those statements.
if the rant interacted with our head coach on a day to day basis, you'd have a point
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
i just want a coach that isn't an imbecile.
is that too much to ask for?
is that too much to ask for?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm the nicest guy ever
Yes you are SlowFlow.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
1. works well in the living room of recruiting prospects
2. no risk of a major embarrassment to the program
fwiw...I think Saban is a good guy, him being a dick notwithstanding. Ethics and character separate 'good' and 'bad'...not nice and abrasive personalities
2. no risk of a major embarrassment to the program
fwiw...I think Saban is a good guy, him being a dick notwithstanding. Ethics and character separate 'good' and 'bad'...not nice and abrasive personalities
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i keep hearing people talk over and over again about how this coach or that coach is a "Bad guy" and how miles is such a "Good guy." why does it matter to you?
Well, being the head coach at a university is very different than being the head coach in the NFL.
NFL is all business. You can be a piece of shite, so long as you are good. See: Bill Bellichick.
College not only do you need to be good, it's also important that you be an upstanding representative of the university, its academic intentions, its place in the community so on and so forth.
By and large, though a goofy speaker, Miles represents that well.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not sure if this is your point. But, Saban broke the mold after Dinardo by recruiting kids that would be in the program for 4-5 years, and if they could play, he found a position for them... and coached them up to it. He didn't marginalize the program by going after talent only. That was his strong point. Miles has the luxury to do the same. He just needs to prove that he can handle the coaching side of it. After this year, he has something to prove as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:04 pm to OBUDan
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College not only do you need to be good, it's also important that you be an upstanding representative of the university, its academic intentions, its place in the community so on and so forth.
but i'm talking about fan love
guys like urban meyer and saban are fricking cocks, but they're beloved and publicly represent the university well
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i'm talking about fan love
guys like urban meyer and saban are fricking cocks, but they're beloved and publicly represent the university well
they don't take short cuts, they build the program for the long term...not do stupid stuff that is detrimental to the program just to win in the short term...they're good guys
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:13 pm to ForeLSU
you don't understand what i'm talking about
let me try to explain again
if you put a camera on urban meyer or saban 24 hours a day, and you watched a week of them, you'd come away saying, "man that guy is a fricking a-hole"
let me try to explain again
if you put a camera on urban meyer or saban 24 hours a day, and you watched a week of them, you'd come away saying, "man that guy is a fricking a-hole"
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
The fans will turn on Saban quicker than you would think. I saw it in 2001 after Ole Miss ... I saw it in 2002 ... I saw it in 2003 after the loss to Florida ... and I definitely saw it in 2004 after the Georgia debacle.
Saban is an easy guy to turn on ... and it happens in a hurry. And this is at least partly why Saban typically becomes unhappy wherever he's at after about 4 or so years because his personality wears on everybody...players, coaches, media and even the fans... and that in turn creates unhappiness for Saban himself ... And in the end, he becomes unhappy because he makes everyone else unhappy around him.
Saban is an easy guy to turn on ... and it happens in a hurry. And this is at least partly why Saban typically becomes unhappy wherever he's at after about 4 or so years because his personality wears on everybody...players, coaches, media and even the fans... and that in turn creates unhappiness for Saban himself ... And in the end, he becomes unhappy because he makes everyone else unhappy around him.
This post was edited on 12/2/08 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:15 pm to JPLSU1981
if saban were so happy at LSU, he wouldn't have struggled to decide if he wanted to go to the NFL or not
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