re: Why do you care that our coach is a "good guy?"

quote:

---

cheating?

---

hence the qualification "just about anything". Though I'm sure many would argue that traditional, winning schools are dealt with less harshly than the have nots.

quote:

---

That preceedes winning.

---

good point. All schools cheat, to a degree.

I respectfully disagree. Saban built the program at LSU on the opposite premise. E.g. get the recruits in the program that will be 4-5 yr. projects, represent the U. with class or haul arse.

quote:

---

if you put a camera on urban meyer or saban 24 hours a day, and you watched a week of them, you'd come away saying, "man that guy is a fricking a-hole"

---

100% correct SlowFlow. Makes you wonder how either of these frick sticks ever got married. You think their wives actually like them? Neither of these morons look like they could actually warm up to someone.

Huge difference between stoops and meyer - one kicks a kid off a team for talking about ak's, the other rewards a kid for firing an ak in a parking lot.

it's not the difference between "good" and "bad" but more about integrity. If you don't have much integrity, you may be successful short term but it will bite you in the arse.

Just look at John Cooper and Don James. They were both assholes with 0 integrity with very short stretches of success.

quote:

---

tenuta is very risky for that reason

---

Yeah, definitely.

There are just different degrees of good/bad. I mean, Bobby Knight is an a-hole, but I'd rather have him than say Kelvin Sampson.

only if it affects his ability to discipline players and fire coaches when needed.

I didnt read all the crap in this thread, but the real reason why it doesnt matter if your coach is a good guy is because this is a game that is entertainment. I am more entertained by watching success than failure.

As an analogy, you think most care if an actor is an a-hole in real life if his movies kicked arse? I sure dont. Football is the same way. Its something to watch on Saturday and get drunk while doing it. I used to live and die with the team until I realized that next year there will be football games played by LSU and I will watch and enjoy them.

I agree with Geauxtiga. I think that those who support Miles speak of his character more than his actual coaching ability to mask the fact the guy appears to be a mediocre coach. Winning and losing is usually THE MOST important attribute for fans. We've all heard how winning makes everything else go away.

It's funny how a lot of fans here HATE Saban and constantly speak of his shitty personality. These are the same ones that speak of unwaivering support of Miles and how he deserves a mulligan because he won a NC last year, and blah, blah, blah. Saban made this team RELEVANT in the SEC AND won a NC after decades of drought on the National stage. He left but still left enough talent to keep this team at the TOP of the CFB landscape. He made a decision that he thought was best for him and his family. It didn't work out and he came back to CFB. His job was not available so he took another great opportunity.

Miles made a HORRIBLE decision with the Co-DC situation but MOST feel he deserves a chance to fix it. If he can be forgiven for making a mistake, why not Saban?

I know I went off topic but it kinda leads to my feeling on this "good guy"/"bad guy" topic. For all the abrasiveness of Saban, I preferred his coaching style. I hate seeing our players make the same mistakes every game and come off the field to a hug from Miles. I hate seeing this team play undisciplined, making the same mistakes, being told by the HC that it will change, and watching the same thing the very next week. I hate watching the defense look utterly confused on just about every play.

Miles says the right things and seems like a pretty nice guy but he doesn't give me the same confidence that Saban did. Miles just doesn't seem that knowledgeable s a HC. So I don't care how nice a person he is, a HC gets paid to win games and this year his coaching, or lack there of, was unacceptable and being nice won't help that.

FWIW, some seem out of touch with reality. Recruits don't care as much about nice coaches as they do about coaches with proven track records of coaching kids to the next level. Saban had a GREAT class because recruits believe he is truly good at what he does and will turn Bama around. They believe that they will have a chance to play in BIG games and win and that Saban will DEVELOP them and COACH them to the NFL. I don't think Miles carries that same aura and we shall see what his recruiting classes look like in the upcoming years now that Saban is at a rival school competing for talent.