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re: Why do Thompson and Dugas switch positions?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:32 pm to ell_13
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:32 pm to ell_13
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Why is this likely? Hurd did great against them Monday and Lowder has had two bad outings in a row.
Because you are the one saying if it doesn't work, bring in Skenes. Gonna pull Hurd when he's dealing?
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:34 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:You sure I said this? Want to reread or want me to explain it again?
you are the one saying if it doesn't work, bring in Skenes. Gonna pull Hurd when he's dealing?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:34 pm to ell_13
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I bet you didn’t know that he threw some before yesterdays game as part of his routine.
Some. He's not getting game ready. You know that but you are trying to score gotcha points
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:35 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
No. He was going after it. It was before the game. The WF coach saw him and mentioned it in his press conference. Said it looked like he was giving it a lot as if it was his normal midweek day. He also said he expects to see him start today.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:37 pm to ell_13
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You sure I said this? Want to reread or want me to explain it again?
If that's not what you are saying, then what is the point of holding Skenes back and using him in a role that he hasn't been used in before in an elimination game? If you are that confident in Hurd, then give him the ball game 2 against FLA
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:38 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You can look at any team you want to in the pros, the SS is going to have one of the highest fielding % on his team, not be second to last
Doesn’t know ball
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:41 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I literally said the benefit is if Hurd is dealing then you get to use him (Skenes) less and less. If Hurd has trouble, you bring him in down a run or two never letting the game get out of hand. You can put a stop to the damage. Whereas if you start Skenes and the game is close, you feel like you have to push him to his limit. But if Hurd comes in and has those same troubles that he would have had to start the game, your options of limiting that damage are mostly down to guidry and money and maybe cooper.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:43 pm to Lester Earl
I might have misspoke saying most or all, but it's not uncommon. Lemaheiu has the highest FP on the yankees among starters who have played the majority of the games so far this season, and he's played the majority of the games at 3rd. That was looking up 1 team.
If people can't see Thompson bumbling routine plays then I don't know what to tell you.
If people can't see Thompson bumbling routine plays then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:46 pm to ell_13
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But if Hurd comes in and has those same troubles that he would have had to start the game, your options of limiting that damage are mostly down to guidry and money and maybe cooper.
And you have 5-7 innings to put some runs on the board by that time and grab momentum instead of hoping bats bail you out in a low scoring world series where the bats have been mostly cold and you have a giant hole in your lineup from 6-9.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:47 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Even if DJ gets a few games at 1st, that’s going to significantly increase his fielding because of all the assists/chances that comes with in just one game. Seems obvious. A 1B could have 10 times as many chances in a single game compared to a 3B. He’s had 11 games at 1B compared to 43 at 3B.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:48 pm to ell_13
DJ has 1 error in 90 chances at 3rd, he's .991 at 3rd and 1.000 at 1st and 2nd
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:49 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
We still have to get 3-5 innings out of our bullpen. Hurd is a big part of that. Whether he starts or comes in late, he needs to pitch well. If you put him in late and he pitches bad, you are just about out of options. If you start him and he pitches bad, you still have innings and Skenes as a stop gap. See the logic? It’s not as stupid as you originally thought it was.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I might have misspoke saying most or all, but it's not uncommon.
It is though. CF and 1B don’t get assessed as many Errors.
SS have to field the majority of hard hit ground balls and then make longer throws to first. both
there are 2 SS with FP over .990. there are 12 1B and 12 CFs.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:52 pm to ell_13
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We still have to get 3-5 innings out of our bullpen.
We don't know that. He's on a 6 day rotation because that's how the college baseball schedule works. He will likely be on a 5 day rotation in 2 months.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:54 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
And he’s an elite fielder. I told you there would be anecdotes. And he’s not even their SS who is right there near the lowest and would be except for 4 errors by Cabrera. 
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:55 pm to SammyTiger
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SS have to field the majority of hard hit ground balls and then make longer throws to first. both
And have fewer chances each game than 1B and C.
So they have the highest difficulty with a lower amount of chances to rebuild their pct.
It doesn't matter though because fielding percentage is pretty useless as a metric. It would tell us that these two shortstops are pretty much equal in fielding skill:
Fielding Percentage (FLD%)
Derek Jeter 0.976%
Ozzie Smith 0.978%
Errors (E)
Derek Jeter 254
Ozzie Smith 281
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:59 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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It's also weird that you would argue against starting the best pitcher in baseball, and instead hope someone else can match up to WF's ace with the season on the line, and then if that doesn't work out hope Skenes can somehow subtract runs off the board
This is absolutely stupid. Are you dumb? Lol
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:59 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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He's shotputting his throws to 1st from 2b
Links?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:59 pm to ell_13
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And he’s an elite fielder. I told you there would be anecdotes. And he’s not even their SS who is right there near the lowest and would be except for 4 errors by Cabrera
And except for Kike Hernandez, Thompson would have the lowest FP by a SS in the AL by 30 points and lowest in the NL by 20 ish.
And we are forgetting that a not-insignificant amount of his errors are on routine plays and he has played a 3rd of his season with an all-world defensive 1B.
My point about the FP may have been wrong, but these points are objectively true.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:00 pm to ell_13
yeah DJ was our SS but the arm strength not fielding ability facilitated a move to 2B
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