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re: Why do LSU fans ALWAYS HATE their own coach?
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:28 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:28 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Typical shrill, poorly thought out response from you.
It doesn't have to be well thought out to be right.
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being relevant to the NC or SECC picture in over two years. FACT.
P.S. It hasn't been over 2 years either...just for future reference.
This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 9:30 am
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:31 am to LSUtigahs28
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The point is that our team should be in a position where we aren't dismissed from serious NC talk 4 weeks into every season.
It happened 08, 09, and will probably happens in 2010
we were still in the discussion up until the 4th quarter of the Bama game this year...
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:32 am to LSUtigahs28
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NC talk 4 weeks into every season.
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It happened 08, 09, and will probably happens in 2010
Coincidentally, around the time of the Florida game. Hmmm...who won the title last year? And who very well may win it again this year? It's a mystery.
If this season would have played out like many recent seasons, LSU wouldn't have necessarily been completely out of the talks after the one loss.
And next year hasn't happened yet. We'll see what happens, until then step back from the edge or step off of it. Just quit bitching about the things you can not change.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:34 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:All you do is talk shite, lie, push your agenda and call it a FACT. The LSU/Bama game, which was played in November, was billed as the winner having the inside track to the SEC Champ game and alive for the National championship. That was the last month of the season. FACT.
LSU has not been mentioned in the back half of the season as being relevant to the NC or SECC picture in over two years. FACT.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:35 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Coincidentally, around the time of the Florida game. Hmmm...who won the title last year? And who very well may win it again this year? It's a mystery.
So what you are saying is whenever we come up against a good team we should just accept that our team will lose and move on? I want to see a coach that actually gives us a chance to win this game.
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If this season would have played out like many recent seasons, LSU wouldn't have necessarily been completely out of the talks after the one loss.
But it didn't. Is LSU supposed to sit around waiting for another 2 loss champ season?
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Just quit bitching about the things you can not change.
I'm actually not bitching in this thread. I'm explaining my rationale for bitching elsewhere.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:36 am to I-59 Tiger
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which more or less was the OP's point.
Ask Nick how loved he felt by the LSU fanbase after that 2001 Ole Miss game.
yeah, that is what i meant by bringing up "catastrophe syndrome". its like some posters don't remember saban saying that. or why he was saying that. thats right, everybody was happy with him and never questioned anything he did.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:40 am to LSUDonMCO
because LSU fans are so knowlegable? esp. after a fifth of jack daniels. the game can be observed with so much "clarity" and emotions can be removed so objective observation can take place. 
how many times have you read that "upon viewing the replay, we didn't look that bad". LSU football is a hobby to many and perfection is the goal.
how many times have you read that "upon viewing the replay, we didn't look that bad". LSU football is a hobby to many and perfection is the goal.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:40 am to noonan
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yeah, that is what i meant by bringing up "catastrophe syndrome". its like some posters don't remember saban saying that.
That's the irony lost on so many . Sure, 8-5 isn't going to work too often nor will poor decisions like what transpired in the Ole Miss game.
With that said, Saban nailed with his "catastrophe syndrome" comment. You'd think we were Memphis State or Baylor with some of the remarks made. Saban would be so disappointed in some of those who worship him.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:42 am to LSUtigahs28
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So what you are saying is whenever we come up against a good team we should just accept that our team will lose and move on? I want to see a coach that actually gives us a chance to win this game.
No, I'm not saying that at all. Holding the number one team to 13 points (7 of which were due to a terrible non-call) Seems like a pretty good chance to me. Were they blown out in any of the losses? Give Miles a chance to make a good hire on the offensive side of the ball, if that doesn't happen after this season there may be a huge problem and a better reason to complain.
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But it didn't. Is LSU supposed to sit around waiting for another 2 loss champ season?
No, but given the recent past there hasn't been an undefeated champion in the last 3 goes of it. This was about the team being mentioned as a contender. In many years 1 loss still does make you a contender, that was my point. And as someone else said, LSU was still in the hunt for an SEC title with an outside shot (if things happened) at a national title up until a month ago.
Now, would I like to see LSU run the table? Absolutely! But to think and say that we MUST do this to even be mentioned as a title contender is ludicrous.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:49 am to LSUtigahs28
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So what you are saying is whenever we come up against a good team we should just accept that our team will lose and move on?
About 80% of the time Miles doesn't lose. Including #1 Ohio State, who had the #1 ranked Defse. LSU's 2nd time to defeat a #1 ranked team.
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I want to see a coach that actually gives us a chance to win this game.
No you don't. You can't name a potentential LSU Coach that could come in and win more than Miles 10+ games a season. Or one who would be interested in competeting against the "Ghost of Saban". The Sabanista mentality that is running rampant, with no end in sight.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:50 am to Deaf McGruff
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I STILL LIKE SABAN.
I hope Bama kicks the &)*( out of Tebow.
Become a Bama fan. You already are anyway..
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:51 am to Sammich
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About 80% of the time Miles doesn't lose. Including #1 Ohio State, who had the #1 ranked Defse. LSU's 2nd time to defeat a #1 ranked team.
8-8 in the SEC the past two years.
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You can't name a potentential LSU Coach that could come in and win more than Miles 10+ games a season.
Brian Kelly or Jim Harbaugh
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Or one who would be interested in competeting against the "Ghost of Saban". The Sabanista mentality that is running rampant, with no end in sight.
I see more posi-Tigers talking about Saban than nega-tigers
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:53 am to Sasquatch Smash
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No, I'm not saying that at all. Holding the number one team to 13 points (7 of which were due to a terrible non-call) Seems like a pretty good chance to me
1) UF was obviously playing ball control kill their Offense football and we played right into their hands.
2) It is when your Offense ranks 108th in country.
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Give Miles a chance to make a good hire on the offensive side of the ball, if that doesn't happen after this season there may be a huge problem and a better reason to complain.
Didn't he have a chance to do that in 07?
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And as someone else said, LSU was still in the hunt for an SEC title with an outside shot (if things happened) at a national title up until a month ago.
Mathematically, but can you honestly say that you thought we had a real shot at the SECCG after watching the UF debacle?
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:56 am to Sasquatch Smash
I distinctly remember listening to the post-game call in show after the Ole Miss game in 2001 and the backlash the rest of the week after. People were livid calling for Saben's head and going off on how he is not a good "big game" coach. Eli Manning came in and totally kicked the shite out of us in Tiger Stadium.
It's hilarious how some of you forget this so quickly after what transpired later. At that point in the season, we had already got beat fairly handidly at tenneessee, and got totally arse-waxed by Florida at home. Your either less than 14 years old or suffer from memory loss if you don't admit people were saying the same thing and worse about Saben as they are now about Miles at that point in 2001.
It's hilarious how some of you forget this so quickly after what transpired later. At that point in the season, we had already got beat fairly handidly at tenneessee, and got totally arse-waxed by Florida at home. Your either less than 14 years old or suffer from memory loss if you don't admit people were saying the same thing and worse about Saben as they are now about Miles at that point in 2001.
This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:58 am to LSUDonMCO
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Since Charlie Mac, LSU fans have always hated and bitched about their coach, and said he was the worst and we can get a better coach.
You're not kidding. After Charlie McClendon, we have had a ridiculous number of coaches, for ridiculously brief tenures:
Bo Rein - 0 seasons (died)
Jerry Stovall - 4 seasons (fired)
Bill Arnsparger - 3 seasons (resigned voluntarily)
Mike Archer - 4 seasons (resigned before could be fired)
Curley Hallman - 4 seasons (fired)
Gerry DiNardo - 4.5 seasons (resigned before could be fired)
Hal Hunter - 0.5 seasons (interim)
Nick Saban - 5 seasons (resigned voluntarily)
Les Miles - 4.5 seasons (so far, but likely to be back next year for a 6th season - which will be the longest tenure since McClendon!)
Posted on 12/3/09 at 9:58 am to LSUtigahs28
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8-8 in the SEC the past two years.
What does that have to do with you yacking about how you "Want a chance to win games against teams? Nothing. The first 3 years of SEC play don't count for Miles? Guess we gootta toss out the First 3 years of Sabooo, as well.
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Brian Kelly or Jim Harbaugh
Are you out of your fricking mind?? Neither of these coaches would come to LSU under the current circumstances.
This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:06 am to TheDude321
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You're not kidding. After Charlie McClendon, we have had a ridiculous number of coaches, for ridiculously brief tenures:
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Bo Rein - 0 seasons (died)
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Jerry Stovall - 4 seasons (fired)
Bill Arnsparger - 3 seasons (resigned voluntarily)
Mike Archer - 4 seasons (resigned before could be fired)
Curley Hallman - 4 seasons (fired)
Gerry DiNardo - 4.5 seasons (resigned before could be fired)
Hal Hunter - 0.5 seasons (interim)
Nick Saban - 5 seasons (resigned voluntarily)
Les Miles - 4.5 seasons (so far, but likely to be back next year for a 6th season - which will be the longest tenure since McClendon!)
Thank you for using the stats to prove my point. I guess like Saban we will love Miles after we drive him away and we become irrelvant again. 
Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:06 am to LSUtigahs28
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1) UF was obviously playing ball control kill their Offense football and we played right into their hands.
2) It is when your Offense ranks 108th in country.
Florida was protecting Tebow in that game so they ran the ball with their backs. They do have the number 1 defense in the country, don't they? And yes the offense stunk it up this year, but how many times were they held below 13 points this year? Once...against Florida.
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Didn't he have a chance to do that in 07?
Had a chance for what? The offense was great in '07. Or are you talking about him being loyal to his defensive coaches and giving them a chance? After seeing that didn't work, he did make a change.
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Mathematically, but can you honestly say that you thought we had a real shot at the SECCG after watching the UF debacle?
Yes, I did think we'd beat Bama. And that is the honest truth.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:09 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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After about the middle of this season, when we failed to even score a TD on Florida, the LSU NC talk ceased to exist.
This is not true at all. All the press I saw mentioned 4 teams as controlling their NC destiny until we lost to Bama: Florida, Bama, Texas, and us.
I'm not saying that they believed in us like the other 3, but there was consensus that if we beat Bama (which seemed very plausible after they barely beat Tennessee and we spanked Auburn) and won out, that would put us in the NCG.
Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:11 am to LSUtigahs28
quote:We absolutely had a shot at the SECCG until the refs took away a shot at a game winning drive in the last 5 minutes of the Alabama game. You act like LSU never had a game winning drive in the 4th quarter over the last 5 years. We have had more than I can remember and to think this team could not have done it is just another attempt, in a long line of attempts, to discredit what Miles has accomplished.
Mathematically, but can you honestly say that you thought we had a real shot at the SECCG after watching the UF debacle?
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