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re: why can't Trent Johnson recruit?
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:22 am to S
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:22 am to S
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trent johnson has already signed aaron dotson out of seattle. he wrestled dotson away from scools in the pacific northwest which is not easy to do. dotson also chose LSU over louisville, where terrence williams, who went to the same high school as dotson played at. next class is key and i believe he'll have a good one.
Aaron Dotson is a good signing, but is Trent Johnson's only highly rated recruit or commitment in over a year on the job at LSU. This is essentially the equivalent of signing Antonio Hudson or Jermaine Williams or Storm Warren. How would the board treat our former coach on this same issue if he had done the same?
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Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:27 am to tiger20
Dude, seriously, go away. You start this crap on the recruiting board, and now over here.
By the way, Dotson is from Washington. So it's not the equivalent of signing a guy from Baton Rouge like Williams.
By the way, Dotson is from Washington. So it's not the equivalent of signing a guy from Baton Rouge like Williams.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:28 am to 756
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TJ better get moving-are his tenure will be short-
holy shite, he wins the SEC championship in his first year here, and this garbage is already coming up because we haven't signed 10 5* recruits yet. jesus, give the man a shot. louisiana is dry as hell talent-wise and will be til probably 2011. in the mean time we'll have to get some possibly less-than stellar recruits and we'll make due because of Trent's coaching ability.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:30 am to ColtsTigers
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By the way, Dotson is from Washington. So it's not the equivalent of signing a guy from Baton Rouge like Williams
It is irrelevant where the player is from. The point is the relative rankings on the recruiting boards.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:38 am to Ryan3232
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Anthony Randolph Tasmin Mitchell
Glenn Davis
Brandon Bass
Tyrus Thomas
Darrel Mitchell
Jaime Lloreda
Marcus Thornton
Chris Johnson
Magnum Rolle
Ronald Dupree
Torris Bright
Antonio Hudson
Collis Temple III
Garret Temple
Stromile Swift
Jabari Smith
Maurice Carter
Ronnie Henderson
Randy Livingston
Shaquille O'neal
Geert Hammink
Jamie Brandon
Maurice Williamson
Stanley Roberts
Duane Spencer
Wayne Sims
Chris Jackson
Ricky Blanton
John Williams
Derrick Taylor
Don Redden
Anthony wilson
Leonard Mitchell
Howard Carter
Rudy Macklin
Ethan Martin
Bolds = Dream team baby!!!
underline = almost dream team baby!!!
italics = should not be on list
Anthony Randolph averaged 15 PPG and 8 rebounds as a freshman and was a lottery pick, yet he does not belong on the list????
Jaime Lloreda was an All SEC selection who led the league in rebounding yet he doesn' belong on the list?
Maurice Williamson was a nationally rated recruit who averaged double figures a couople of times and was a key player onseveral good teams.
Magnum Rolle was a top 20 recruit sho averaged double figures last season at La. Tech.
Chris Johnson was a key player on an LSU SEC championship team who has been invited to an NBA camp.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 12:40 am to tiger20
mo williamson was underrated
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:42 am to tiger20
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It is irrelevant where the player is from. The point is the relative rankings on the recruiting boards.
It is relevant you douche. There aren't going to be 3 future NBA stars ever again in successive years in Baton Rouge like there was when Brady was coach.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:47 am to ColtsTigers
That article was kinda bullshite. From everything I've heard on the inside Derenbecker is the only LA recruit with a legit offer. While we may end up struggling with recruiting, it's unfair to say we lost out on players without verifying out interest first.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:32 am to tiger20
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Posted on 6/30/09 at 6:37 am to ligerbait
J.T. is not the problem, we have met the enemy and they are us.
Our clueless coach-hater faction is already sending out trial balloons to see how much discention there is over a not so steller recruiting performance this year.
Our clueless coach-hater faction is already sending out trial balloons to see how much discention there is over a not so steller recruiting performance this year.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 6:59 am to 756
My take...
Johnson will need to settle in and get the program implemented to his style and create an identity to the program.
LSU has suffered a serious PR downfall during the Brady years...TJ will have to overcome this.
LSU Basketball seriously lacks an identity. Dale Brown was charismatic and became the face of LSU...like him or not, he brought national attention, national recruits and we sold out virtually every game. Trent Johnson is not charismatic. That will be a hurdle.
LSU fan support for Basketball at this point is weak at best. I went to a game last year (Xavier) and there was zero enthusiasm. They arrive late and leave early. You can give tickets away to LSU games.
All of the above affects recruiting. TJ knew this mountain was going to be high and treacherous. LSU fans need to step up and support the program and bring enthusiasm to the PMAC. We have to start making it an event. That's tough to do at a school where Football is king.
Johnson will need to settle in and get the program implemented to his style and create an identity to the program.
LSU has suffered a serious PR downfall during the Brady years...TJ will have to overcome this.
LSU Basketball seriously lacks an identity. Dale Brown was charismatic and became the face of LSU...like him or not, he brought national attention, national recruits and we sold out virtually every game. Trent Johnson is not charismatic. That will be a hurdle.
LSU fan support for Basketball at this point is weak at best. I went to a game last year (Xavier) and there was zero enthusiasm. They arrive late and leave early. You can give tickets away to LSU games.
All of the above affects recruiting. TJ knew this mountain was going to be high and treacherous. LSU fans need to step up and support the program and bring enthusiasm to the PMAC. We have to start making it an event. That's tough to do at a school where Football is king.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 7:50 am to 756
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why can't Trent Johnson recruit?
My god, this is just his first full recruiting class. He has to make relationships with AAU and high school coaches in this part of the country. More importantly AAU coaches. He well recruited at Stanford--he will recruit well here.
I feel in about 3 or 4 years LSU will have to "pony up" to keep Trent.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 7:54 am to Tiger Ugly
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Tis true, but one must tread carefully with CT2. There are strings attached.
Truer words have never been spoken.
As a side note, I heard a story right before the Final Four season. Seems Brady was sent a message from the Athletic Department administration through CT2 that he was gone after that season barring some sort of drastic change in the program. Well, we know the rest of that story.
I think TJ deserves much more time to see the fruits of his recruiting. I could care less who he recruits. What I'm concerned with is the product on the court. If he wins with recruits that nobody else was recruiting, then he can let every star recruit "get away" as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 7:57 am to tigerdrew23
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why can't Trent Johnson recruit?
What SEC school can recruit? Kentucky with its tradition and basketball crazy fanbase and Florida with its large population. That is the only hope the SEC has for a perennial basketball power.
LSU better accept Brady-like success in basketball, or get use to revolving door basketball coaches and less than Brady-like success.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 8:00 am to thunderbird1100
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exact words from skipper was "not filling the seats'
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..."Because he was not winning"
DING! DING! DING!
And THAT'S the problem with b-ball at LSU. It takes a winning team to get fans in the stands, and that says a lot about our fans. Why not support the team anyway?
Posted on 6/30/09 at 8:07 am to tigerdrew23
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He has to make relationships with AAU and high school coaches in this part of the country. More importantly AAU coaches.
And what is the state of AAU programs in La?
I think that has always been a major weakness in Louisiana. It is amazing that so many good recruits come out of the state with the lack of good programs and facilities.
I am amazed at the level of programs over here in Florida. Top flight teams that travel all over, play all year, and have great reputations. Doesn't hurt to have so many pro athletes around (Doc Rivers, Dee Brown, Ken Griffey).
Is the youth/AAU system good in La?
Posted on 6/30/09 at 8:11 am to Bad Cat
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What SEC school can recruit? Kentucky with its tradition and basketball crazy fanbase and Florida with its large population. That is the only hope the SEC has for a perennial basketball power.
LSU better accept Brady-like success in basketball, or get use to revolving door basketball coaches and less than Brady-like success.
The frick you talking about? All LSU fans ask is that TJ get the talent that is available in this region. If he does that, LSU basketball should be successful. Noone is asking him to recruit nationally or to be a Final Four contender every year.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 9:06 am to 756
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brady was fired for political reasons, Collis Temple wanted him fired, sure Brady was not winning, but the real reason behind the firing was politics- same old story at LSU- I like TJ and think he can be a good coach for LSU but at the end of the day the political powers rule.
Skip stated the main reason for financial- I am just quoting him.
You don't know sh1t as evidenced by this post.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 9:15 am to Genghis Khan
quote:You're right. Winning the SEC in his first year proves TJ does not know how to win.
Brady was fired for not winning. TJ seems to have that part of the job down pat.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 9:16 am to LSURussian
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Brady was fired for not winning. TJ seems to have that part of the job down pat.
You're right. Winning the SEC in his first year proves TJ does not know how to win.
Have another cup of coffee and re-read. He was saying TJ has winning down pat, not "not winning".
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